"They are in your country.

They are in my country

They are in every country.

Now what?"

Let more in! It's working out so well

Toothsayer reports to have been 100 meters from the attack. Just FYI.

I don't mean on an Internet message board. We're powerless and useless. I mean in academia, in the political and mainstream media class, where opinion is formed and set.

They are in your country.

They are in my country

They are in every country.

Now what?[/QUOTE]

Let more in! It's working out so well.[/QUOTE]

Nice... but the grown ups are talking here.

Or do you deny that Muslims exist in every country? What do you do about those already here?

Do you know that this isn't happening? Do you think that if it was happening making it public could be counter-productive?

Well we're not here to speculate about "certainly possible" situation.
Until further clarifications, attacks are from an unknown source and may be from a french citizen.

And to my knowledge, how can ISIS be muslims when they attack one of Islam's holiest place no more than 1 week ago ?

Muslims absolutely hate ISIS right now. They kill 1000x more Muslims than non.

I don't think he's telling the tooth.

Religious reformation is a thing that has happened multiple times in human history.

And this is a commonly proposed solution, although it is obviously easier said than done.

The environment must be created where we criticize harshly the regressive, backwards, medieval practices that are integrated into many Islamic nations, and these beliefs are tending to trickle into even first world countries. These practices help to give birth to radicalized Muslims.

Yep, let's turn on those scumbag Saudis. A cornered, politically unstable Saudi is going to lead to less terrorism!

I dunno. First time I noticed him and took him at his word.

Nice... but the grown ups are talking here.

Or do you deny that Muslims exist in every country? What do you do about those already here?

You mean the grown ups that have been in denial about Muslim immigration for the past decade? Yeah I think people are done listening to them.

Yeah there's that of course, but you have to appreciate the endless preemptive preening abut how the cultural left has silenced all the good ideas and the good ideas are:

- Churchill suggested preemptively attacking Germany, have you thought about that?
- Prosecuting of hate speech in mosques
- de-Islamification

Like oh yeah, I hadn't thought of preemptively attacking...radical Islam and re-education programs to coach Muslims out of Islam.

ToothSayer, no offense but leftists didn't make your ideas inane, stupid and not to mention indicative of some bizarrely dystopian authoritarianism. Take some agency and responsibility for your hilariously terrible thoughts and plans, no leftist made you think them.

Maybe we convert all the Muslims in a 2-step process. First convert all the Sunnis to Shiite, then we'll worry about converting everyone to Christianity.

Lol tooth wants de-Islamification programs. Amazing

Man, at least Tooth is upfront with his plan to defeat terrorism. Normally we get this sort of passive-aggressive stuff:

Pretty clear what DC thinks the solution to Islamic terrorism is... but why is he unable to articulate it explicitly? It's not Wookie or the PC Police stifling free speech by editing his posts. It's 100% him being too afraid/ashamed to say what he really thinks. Man, it's not the left's fault that you guys have embarrassingly retrograde views.


Edit: I basically got ponied with this:

because in the eyes of the media when its right wing its bigotry, when its left wing its just establishment

What if I were to tell you the jihadists are the reformists?

Sort by proximity to terrorism to determine accuracy?

Also, no one forced him to come to 2p2 and discuss politics so I don't think anyone needs to feel guilty or put on our kid gloves here.

I'm all in favor of this solution. But, one does not simply wave a wand and reform a 2k year old religion.

Yeah, I feel like this was covered pretty well on NPR after a recent attack. It's literally any sort of person who buys into this. Less women than men, I think.

And re: banning Islam or whatever, anonymous is right, you can't arrest an idea.

I'm not sure what causes religions to die out, exactly. Being subsumed into other, newer religions? Isn't that what happened to the Roman gods or the Greek gods? My world history is rubbish.

And never peacefully. Every major reformation of a world religion led to multi-million death wars.

First, no. Second, if Islam is inherently blankety blank, why was there so much less stop the presses headline Islamic terrorism in the 60s-90s? Why was there a relative dip in Islamic terrorism 2008-2011ish? Could there be other, uh, less cartoonish reasons? Again, I accept your retraction, no hard feelings.

I'll give ToothSayer credit insofar as he's way more coherent, articulate and direct than the usually circumspect and stuttering right-wing agitators who desperately want to bomb Muslims and re-indoctrinate them to be civilized but can't find the gumption to say it with all the mean cultural leftists on the internet these days.

So, kudos to ToothSayer.

I don't.... but the results are sort of underwhelming, don't you think.

I'm guessing if Imam's balls were being squeezed, they would have squawked about it .... but I'm guessing