I don't understand what this means. Would you not harm someone that entered your house without permission, if you believed that use of force would both 1) be legal and socially acceptable and 2) remove the threat? Why can't your fear of muslims grow to the point where you feel similarly justified in using force against them? I haven't met anyone who sincerely felt that force can never be used legitimately and fear can always grow to justify its removable by any means necessary.

Fear is not bad because it causes violence - violence is bad becauses it causes fear.

lol, like it would be hard for anyone to look up a United States ruling that is bigoted, it means USA is all bigots am i rite?

Really? You are answering a question with a question? How about you answer it yourself and then I can respond.

Whites make up 75% of the American population. Blacks make up 12%. The statistics on single parent families and the disastrous effects it has had on the black community represent an overwhelming trend.

Is there? I don't see any mass protests in that country or any other Islamic country, i don't even see protests from any Islamic group from western world...
I ask you one more time. Is it ok to hate ideology of the group and not hate members of that group. Is it still bigotry?

Yeah, because so many countries outside of Western Europe and North America have the same free speech and free press provisions we do.

Its been awhile since US courts OKed spousal abuse but whatever...EVERY US courts ruling that is bigoted have been wildly contested by people in US and thats why we somewhat sure that at some point we will work them out. Is there are mass protest against women rights in Islam by Moslem's? Still no gays in Iran? Anyone in Iran has anything else to say about it?
LOL. Why is the prevailing argument to this kind of question always "why do you think that your **** don't stink?" Yeah my **** may stink and i will deal with my **** one way or the other. How are you dealing with yours?

Yeah that's what I thought

The victims of religious bigotry, such as homosexuals, would have just cause in being 'bigoted' against the religious (imo). Whilst it's a generalization to charge every religious person with being a consistent follower of scripture (and thus necessarily homophobic), they are enablers of gay hatred by spreading these texts as the literal word of God (despite their selective readings).

A gay person would not have just cause in being bigoted against blacks, citing something such as their disproportionate support for prop 8. People do not chose to be black nor does being black necessitate following a certain moral code antithetical to gay rights. Being religious is a choice and does necessitate an (admittedly broad) adherence to texts that if read literally are against gay rights.

There was an interesting documentary about gay Orthodox Jews and their attempt to reconcile their sexual orientation with scripture... whilst I had admiration for them, their attempts were futile and merely set the stage for further torment, not just for themselves but future gays who would be better off liberated from and actively opposed and segregated from the religion of their forefathers.

How can you justify your position that being bigoted against religion (something someone subscribes to voluntarily which defines their moral code) isn't less deplorable than being bigoted against race (a superficial involuntary attribute).

and who is to blame for that???? Not the same ideology? To rephrase popular thread in this forum: Islam is a package, you can't just pick freedom of religion (unless its a commie country and in that case its also part of ideology).

What about Australia?

What about it?

Oh wow we've got a real thinker on our hands here. Someone who loves to have a dialogue and debate the issues.

Feel free to divulge all of the "deficiencies" in the White community.

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1069121.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/wo...st/18iran.html

Mass protests here get media coverage, mass protests there get beatings and people arrested, isn't the fact that they have had protests good?

How voluntary do you think it is? While obviously less heritable than race, kids sure do seem to end up believing what their parents/community believe. How tightly does religion constrain "moral code"? As you yourself allude, there is much room for scriptural interpretation. I think it would be pretty easy to find self-described Christians with wildly disparate views and outlooks.

Ok, I'll get started. I'm making some assumptions here but I feel like I'm on pretty firm ground:

1) iNeedScissors61

So you think black and Muslim culture are bad, but don't think that white culture has any problems. You certainly picked the right thread to post in.

lol

Can we vote to kick him out?

No, not at all. I was actually having fun, because there was a bunch of ridiculous stuff going on all around the place. I didn't really think anything about my reaction at the time, but then I read a little bit of this thread and it got me thinking, so I figured I'd ask.

Perhaps that's a good reason to be bigoted against religion?

From your own link:
you came a long way baby...

I wasn't really sure because I definitely made a judgment based on their appearance that I factored into the equation. I mean, if it had been a bunch of guys standing in suits doing the exact same actions I wouldn't hae been nearly as concerned, but these guys' appearance definitely made me think that they would be much more prone to doing something violent and stupid to me for no good reason.

Still waiting to hear these "deficiencies" in White culture, when the "deficiencies" in Black and Islamic culture are very clear.

But I guess you guys respect the general trend of Black men abandoning their children, which most black women will resoundingly agree with, including women that I work with. And you guys must respect the oppression of women in Islamic culture as well?

It seems like it would also be a good reason to be bigoted against tolerance or the theory of evolution.

EDIT: In one post you're arguing "religion is voluntary, that's why it's okay to hate it." In the second post, it's more like "okay, so maybe religion is involuntary, that's an even better reason to hate it." Nice.

Now lets talk about Chinese, Japanese, Hispanic, and Hindu culture. As a white person who is married to a woman from Nepal, I can say that, IN GENERAL, these cultures value family more than whites. Oh my goodness now I'm making bigoted statements about my own race right?

I thought of another good deficiency of the white community:

2) we're perfectionists and too hard on ourselves