What kind of scandal is going to break through the right-wing media machine such that he becomes much more unpopular?

As I said, we'll have to see. The Russian mess could do it. He just got sued by Maryland for basically being a foreign agent.

But the real answer is, "who knows" - he's basically a drunk wandering around in traffic. It doesn't matter which car/truck sends him to the hospital.

MM MD

His approval rating is already just barely treading water, once Mueller's investigation turns up anything conclusive it's going to tank and the GOP's hand will be forced, especially since so many of the slimy weasels are tied up in this Russia ****. They'll move on Trump to try to save themselves, eventually.

20 Lessons from the 20th Century on How to Survive in Trump’s America
Timothy Snyder
http://inthesetimes.com/article/1965...trumps-america

If all the layers of this onion ever get peeled back, I think this will be the most blatant abuse of power in American political history.

Unfortunately, I have very little confidence that will happen. The only way to expose the full extent of this disaster for president is through his taxes. If the lawsuit today somehow accomplishes that great because it will be all over! Otherwise, we're gonna need the GOP's help to get rid of him and that doesn't seem forthcoming.

Watergate trials happened because there were still some Republicans with a modicum of decency and sense of duty to country. That isn't the case this time around. They will literally watch the world burn down to advance their agenda. The Democratic party is corrupt. The GOP is pure evil.

Trump supports like Gingrich are already sending up trial balloons to see how tarnishing Mueller works for the Trump fan base. Whatever Mueller finds they will just call it fake news. What are you talking about?

That's already been forgotten about. Is anyone noticing how they're pushing through Trumpcare behind closed doors? They aren't even holding hearings on it afaik.

I don't think we fully realize how much different that time period was. Even though it was incredibly contentious, the major Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act laws that LBJ passed in 1964-1965 were all passed on a bipartisan basis. I don't think those bills would get a single Republican vote today. The parties are just based on completely different things now.

Went with Watergate; obviously leaving the option open to change my mind as we learn more.

Exactly my point. The destruction of one institution with no consequences (Supreme Court), and even worse, the media is trying to pretend like everything is fine, leads to the destruction of more institutions.

I was watching a 60's rock era documentary and it had footage of what was going on at the time with the civil rights movement and anti war rallies, etc. I was shocked at how violent it was! How authoritarian the police and government was back then! One news reporter said that LBJ let it be known that the FBI was closely watching any anti war activity!

I wasn't conscious back then, but wonder if what we're seeing today is going to be bigger than that or not. So far, it doesn't seem to be. There was real rioting in the streets back then. Police using water cannons and everything. I think it's gonna need to get at least that bad now if we're going to take back our government.

Well they are shooting black kids for almost no reason and getting away with it (cops), and you should really look into what's going on in the prisons these days. It's really horrific, there's practically no education programs whatsoever and the conditions are very inhumane. It's all set up to be as cheap as possible and to be a center of hardcore retribution, a place to lock away people we've decided are no good any more. Then when you leave your criminal record follows you and makes it harder to exist in the economy, and in many states it takes years AFTER leaving prison before you can even get the right to vote again. It's very draconian. You should really look into it.


http://newjimcrow.com/

Out of all the scandals including Trump-Russia, firing Comey and Watergate, I consider this to be the biggest scandal of them all. Jim Crow never really ended, it just shifted forms.

https://twitter.com/JudyWoodruff/sta...97738108145665

If everyone left Trump & GOP alone without resistance, it would be too late to look back by this time next year. That's how fast things are moving.

Look at how tightly his middle and lower class base is wrapped around him psychologically. They've gotten nothing for their troubles but a stolen Gorsuch in almost 5 months. If you asked them about Trump accomplishments 3 months ago, the answers were always "Keystone Pipeline, Dakota Pipeline, TPP" (LOL Really??) and they couldn't answer a follow up question if you paid them to Google it. Now, they got sick and tired of the nonsense and just answer Gorsuch almost all the time. These people are just about breaking even after 140 days. So why are they still so loyal? Because GOP policies like Trumpcare haven't passed and because they aren't being negatively affected by the rest YET. They are either misinformed by Fox/RWNJs or don't care about:

RUSSIA-GATE
Trump, Flynn (fired, investigated), Manafort (fired, investigated), Sessions (recused, investigated), Kushner (investigated), Page (distanced, investigated), Stone (distanced, investigated), Nunes (recused), Ryan, Gordon (distanced), Prince (distanced), Ross, Bannon?, Pence?, Epshteyn? (resigned, investigated), Farage?, WikiLeaks, Guccifer, DC Leaks + other countries like Turkey and Syria + Putin, Kislyak, Lavrov and all the other (like 25) Russians + all the good actors

OBSTRUCT-A-GATE
FBI Comey (4x, fired), DNI Coats (1x), NSA Rogers (1x), Yates (1x, fired), Bharara (2x?, fired) + aides, staff, other good actors, unknown bad actors

GLOBAL-GATE
Weakened alliances like Canada, UK, Germany, Isreal, Mexico, Australia, much of Europe, South Korea + Strengthened dictatorships and human rights violators like Russia RUSSIA Russia (you have no idea how much we've done for Russia in the last few months, including appealing to military and verbal/online threats from the Kremlin, and all of it for NOTHING in return for our country), Turkey, Philippines, lots of the Middle East except for Iran and Qatar.

PARIS-CLIMATE-GATE
N.A.T.O.-GATE
TERROR-GATE
IMMI-GATE-TION
SCOTUS-GATE
ANTI-OBAMA-GATE
TRAVEL-BAN-GATE
WEAPONS-GATE
CLASSIFIED-GATE
WIRETAPP-GATE
MEDIA-GATE
CEO-GATE
RACIAL-GATE
CORRUPTION-GATE including LOL EMOLUMENTS

I got lazy after expanding only the first few. There are probably more. But yeah, just 4.5 months in.

EDIT: And his TWEETS. OMG the tweets. Follow him if you don't already. Check Twitter archives too. Geeeeez.

Heh, not even on my list. That just shows exactly how much corrupt **** we're dealing with this presidency.

What you have to realize is that the biggest scandal, the War on Drugs + Mass Incarceration, started long before Trump. The GOP has deep seated interests in a kind of fascist state that Trump would sign off on, but few other Presidents would at this point (Pence would to some, but not to all I think.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wYYX0mZsQA

"We just need a President to sign this stuff."
-Grover Norquist, 2012

Agree with everything you're saying, but it's not just the GOP dude. The Dems have been just as (almost as?) bad at mass incarcerating and prosecuting the war on drugs. Do you know how many people (mostly blacks, but some whites and Latinos as well) who are sitting in jail right now because they can't afford and don't know anyone with $200 bail to them out? So they sit in jail until trial and then gotta plea bargain down the trumped up charges that most likely end in a conviction. Now go out and try to find a job.

If your point is that Trump will facilitate this more than other presidents, point taken. But I think it's a huge mistake to just blame the GOP. The Dems talk a good game when it comes to racial discrimination in the justice system, but they **** minorities just the same.

Oh totally, no you're absolutely right. Now to be completely fair Obama + Holder worked hard to roll back the War on Drugs around the edges, and they did some good. But this scandal has a long history of being very bipartisan. This is something the Democratic leadership has completely failed to take advantage of as public opinion has shifted and people are actually starting to realize what's going on with this thing. They need to speak out openly and forcefully and we need to make massive changes. The War on Drugs is such a dramatic scandal because unlike Watergate, it's never been dealt with. It's still ongoing 40+ years later. And like you said it might be the most American scandal of them all, because it has a long history of being totally bipartisan.

Democratic leadership needs to speak up openly and boldly about these issues:

Criminal justice reform
Sentencing Reform
Prison Reform
Voting Reform including a new Voting Rights Act
-Automatic Voter Registration (This already exists in a state or two, it works through the DMV system and is actually statistically shown to work.)
-Elections on Weekends
-Election day is a National Holiday for major elections (in November of course).
Federal anti-discrimination laws for LGBTQ+ individuals
Laws against "trying juveniles as adults"
Ending partisan gerrymandering federally and having independent nonpolitical commissions do all redistricting + census activities

In California, Citizens Control the Redistricting Process and It Works
https://ivn.us/2013/06/17/in-califor...-and-it-works/