Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Awan Brothers - Hacking Scandal hits House of Reps (by foreigners with security clearance) The Awan Brothers - Hacking Scandal hits House of Reps (by foreigners with security clearance)

05-29-2017 , 04:01 AM
It's interesting that this story hasn't been reported on much (other than the Daily Caller). A lot of the facts are available on the internet if you search around. The swamp in DC is real.

Facts: 3 Pakistani national brothers worked as shared IT staff for 20+ members of the House of Representatives. It appears at some point a 4th brother and one of their wives were also employed.

Daily Caller article (you can link to updates at bottom)

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/ex...ecurity-probe/

NY Post article from today

http://nypost.com/2017/05/28/crimina...remains-eerie/

Each person got paid ~twice as much as normal for that position. Computer equipment was stolen, and it appears that networks were compromised as well (and possibly sent to an offsite server, etc.).

Imran Iwan salary info (one name listed, his work spreads across many members)

http://congressional-staff.insidegov...830/Imran-Awan

Apparently Debbie Wasserman Schulz (yes, that DWS) is the one responsible for bringing them in/hiring. All Congressional staff under investigation get fired. However, Debbie is still paying Imran Awan (the oldest brother) as a "technical advisor" at last update, because she's disallowed to pay anyone as staff while they're under investigation.

There were 5 people employed (rumors are Pakistani intelligence, but who knows). Here's the letter asking for additional funds for highest level security clearance - that normally costs $25,000 each (times 5 = 125k). No names in the request though.

https://fas.org/irp/congress/2016_cr/hpsci-hac.pdf

One of the brothers owned a car dealership (initials C.I.A., lol). It appears there were a lot of financial issues with it, etc. - point is there's ways you can money launder there (swapping inventory with other dealers, fixing books, etc.). This appears (?) to be a Walter's car wash scenario. At the least, it raises questions why you'd give a foreign national with clear records of financial "problems" top level security clearance (normally a huge red flag).

Because the theft of Congress members equipment happened on US Capitol grounds, the DC Capitol Police have jurisdiction of this case. Turns out, Debbie's laptop is still in their possession due to an ongoing investigation (going on over 3 months). Last week there was a (normally yawn) Committee hearing on Police budgets. DWS basically grilled the chief that he's spending too much, then had a 3-minute exchange at the end where she demanded her laptop back, he said he couldn't do it (based on extenuating cirucmstances, go through counsel, etc.) and she said "there would be consequences", lol.

1:24:20 for the 3-minute (gimme my laptop back) part.



Apply Occam's Razor and people should be screaming to the FBI and everyone to swarm all over this. It doesn't take an infowars conspiratard to think of all the bad ways/purposes of this arrangement. There were some high level committees these people sat on, they could be compromised in many ways, and much of the information and intelligence they're seeing is literally worth millions and tens of millions of dollars to the right people, groups, and/or governments.
05-29-2017 , 04:17 AM
The NYPost article says they're already being investigated. So what's your point? They should investigate faster, or what?
05-29-2017 , 04:49 AM
The point is if you think about it and follow the money trails, it's Watergate level.
05-29-2017 , 04:52 AM
Gramps! Good to see you bro. Welcome to politards. First hit is always free.

I guess I have to live up to my end of the bargain and delve deep into this stuff. I will hit it hard tomorrow - much buzzed at the moment.
05-29-2017 , 05:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramps
The point is if you think about it and follow the money trails, it's Watergate level.
Nothing major is confirmed and the highest ranking figure associated with the alleged criminals is Deb Schulz, so no it's not even close to Watergate level.
05-29-2017 , 05:06 AM
Thank you, good () to be here. The timing of the Awan brothers firing aligns with just after the botched Yemen raid. (2 weeks after Trump had come into office). I remember reading this Intercept article back in March (the authors visited the village post-facto and interviewed the villagers).

Apparently the "bad guys" may have been tipped off to the raid. That ties into some underlying theories behind all of this. (Which we can believe, not believe, wait for more facts obv., etc.)

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/09/...ful-seal-raid/
05-29-2017 , 09:05 AM
This article is as stupid as I expected. Nice catch on the Yemen connection, they are probably also Muslims, just like those terrorists in Yemen. Why are you reading the Daily Caller?
05-29-2017 , 09:12 AM
How about this. We impeach Trump and Pence and we can also send these guys and DWS to jail.
05-29-2017 , 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobman0330
How about this. We impeach Trump and Pence and we can also send these guys and DWS to jail.
Thing is DWS shows up because she was one of the Congressional victims. But you have to highlight her name because it triggers the appropriate Daily Caller reader limbic reaction. If Palosi had been a victim Trey Gowdy would have to lead another investigation.

Last edited by simplicitus; 05-29-2017 at 09:30 AM.
05-29-2017 , 09:23 AM
What's the conspiracy alleged here? That Dem house members paid people to steal their own computers and hack their own accounts? That doesn't make any sense at all.
05-29-2017 , 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13ball
What's the conspiracy alleged here? That Dem house members paid people to steal their own computers and hack their own accounts? That doesn't make any sense at all.
You are clearly missing the trees by focusing on the forest. DWS! She has bad hair!
05-29-2017 , 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
Thing is DWS shows up because she was one of the Congressional victims. But you have to highlight her name because it triggers the appropriate Daily Caller reader limbic reaction. If Palosi had been a victim Trey Gowdy would have to lead another investigation.
The hallmark of a successful negotiation is that everyone walks away unhappy.
05-29-2017 , 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramps
The point is if you think about it and follow the money trails, it's Watergate level.
Barely two posts in and OP is already throwing out false equivalencies to watergate because hes heard it on the news about orange daddy and russia
05-29-2017 , 09:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13ball
What's the conspiracy alleged here? That Dem house members paid people to steal their own computers and hack their own accounts? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Lol this
05-29-2017 , 10:28 AM
Is there an allegation that DWS got paid or she just made some bad hiring decisions?

Seems more like this scandal is more of a minor Jonathan Pollard level thing than Watergate. I guess the crime is similar to Watergate (stealing info), but the parties involved certainly aren't.

I really don't see a connection to the Yemen raid.

In general, Pakistani intelligence having connections or operatives inside the US government (or major corporations) at some levels would absolutely not be a shock. That's probably true for a lot of countries, but Pakistan has a very large powerful intelligence organization so especially true for them.
05-29-2017 , 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobman0330
How about this. We impeach Trump and Pence and we can also send these guys and DWS to jail.
Throw Hillary in jail too and you have a deal.
05-29-2017 , 10:55 AM
It would be a great result but probably not supported by evidence.
05-29-2017 , 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
Gramps! Good to see you bro. Welcome to politards. First hit is always free.
I like how we're all beating up on the new guy. It's like a gang initiation.
05-29-2017 , 11:56 AM
We're off to a good start. False equivalencies, projection, daily caller, utoobz, incoherent conspiratarding, cant wait to see how many more checkmarks we can fill in on his next couple posts
05-29-2017 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I like how we're all beating up on the new guy. It's like a gang initiation.
I warned him it would be like that. Actually been pretty mild compared to what I was expecting. Gramps and I have been butting heads on FB about this stuff for 6 months or so.
05-29-2017 , 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by +rep_lol
We're off to a good start. False equivalencies, projection, daily caller, utoobz, incoherent conspiratarding, cant wait to see how many more checkmarks we can fill in on his next couple posts
The incoherent part bugs me the most. I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but conspiracy theorist have really fallen off in the narrative department. I haven't even been able to decipher a simple coherent motive, let alone some grand narrative about how the evil government is pulling the wool over our eyes.
05-29-2017 , 06:35 PM
Debbie Wasserman Schultz hired/vouched for/brought in foreign national hackers to work as IT staff in the U.S. House of Reps. The Awans would have access to emails, data, reports & intelligence from House members and certain Committees. What logical (i.e. non-evil) reason would DWS do that, pay them double+ for their work, and everything else?

They were part of a "shared staff" arrangement, working part-time for some 20+ Reps. (so access to all of their emails, data & reports). Gonna guess the Awan's capabilites might have been slightly higher than what's required to hack a poker player and view their hole cards.

Apparently other IT staff members didn't see the Awans much either. So if they were traveling back and forth to Pakistan a lot, you'd probably also want to look into possible visa fraud around her District or elsewhere.
05-29-2017 , 06:41 PM
Whether you're just trying to spy on other Representatives, glean intelligence for foreign services, or glean data/intelligence to sell abroad, the implications are giant. I'd rather all of this to not be true, but (so far) other explanations make little to no sense given the available facts. So many red flags all around.
05-29-2017 , 06:44 PM
Presumably there would be something in it for DWS, no? So why in the world would she be paying them double instead of like, getting paid herself? Or is she perhaps a secret moooslim? I'm struggling to figure out the motive.
05-29-2017 , 06:49 PM
I can't even figure out what's going on.


DWS hired Muslim brothers and the world should be concerned?

      
m