I would say it's not even a lie. It's just some words he made up on the spot. He has and had no clue whether it was true or not and never cared.

If there's any way to save the wil prop bet fiasco for posterity, that would be greatly appreciated.

My understanding is that Mat has no intention of moving all or any threads himself, but only to provide the opportunity to move any threads that people wanted moved before he deleted the forum.

I assume given super-mod status that you can move threads yourself if you want them, but I'm also happy to move any threads that are wanted, or whatever else should be done.

The area around UNC is fairly liberal.

Same can be said for Charlottesville, no?

How would you answer the same question from someone going to Israel for grad student work who is scared of exploding buses? You can, of course, run bad and be a crime victim anywhere. Being a foreigner may elevate that risk, but the ovens your wife needs to worry about belong to artisanal gluten-free vegan bread making hippies, not Nazis. Your wife is far more likely to catch heat from her colleagues on campus who are anti-Israel.

Honest answer is that the chances you will be the victim of religiously motivated violence is probably very, very low. It's America, so you know you might get shot at any time, we shoot each other a lot. Way more than is common in like any other first world county. But usually not because you're Jewish. And in a relatively well-off area like the Research Triangle, you'll probably be fine.

Will you feel harassed, unwelcome, etc.? In Chapel Hill, or really anywhere in the Raleigh–Durham area? Also unlikely, but who knows. Trump's America is an increasingly strange place. It's probably true you'd largely feel fine and most people will be welcoming.

If you head out into the suburbs and rural areas, and your Jewishness is obvious either by dress or your name or whatever, pretty sure you will find a mix of *******s and/or kind of cluelessly offensive people, some nice people, etc. Then your down to the context of the social situation: are people drinking, are you organizing for some kind of political cause, etc.

Still would rate the likelihood of any kind of violence low but like getting called a Christ killer or someone calling you offensive names wouldn't be out the question.

If someone asked me about a position in Ariel University or even HUJI, I would probably advise against it. I would defiantly not answer it with "didn't an airplane hit the Twin Towers lol?"

I'm also not afraid of actual genocide.

Yeah, maybe. I'm less familiar with that area.

How long should we wait before we start erecting monuments in Politics to the lost cause of chez, toothsayer, and wil?

If you tear down the chezlaw statue, where does it end? Will our Phil Ivey statue be gone too?

The US is more dangerous than Israel. Your homicide rate is like a fifth of ours.

That said, the fear is irrational. Driving is way more dangerous and you won't give it a second thought.

That doesn't mean that holding out for Cali isn't a good idea.

OK.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41.../#post52717714

The fear isn't getting killed. That would be somewhat irrational and driving is more dangerous. It's a fear of having angry white dudes with machine guns near our kid's pre-school (which also serves as a synagogue) or having "alt-right" marches yelling about Jews on a monthly basis.

I mean it might still be irrational in that area, but it's not like a fear of anti-semitism and white supremacy at this time is inherently irrational fear.

Yuv,

You will be fine in Raleigh/Durham imo. Lived there for 2 years and it is a very liberal/well educated place. If you stray to far into either 1. the bad parts of Durham or 2. the countryside of NC, that advice doesn't apply.

That being said, it's a great area and had lots of different people. In my apartment complex, there were 2 Jewish families from Israel, a Pakistani couple, and an Iranian refugee. It certainly didn't feel like the south, to say the least.

edit: This was like 2013-2015, so slightly pre-trump. Still, the research triangle was a great place to live and definitely was nothing like rural, deep south areas at all. A career path took me out of the area, but I would have no problem living there again. I'm a white dude and I'm not Jewish, so ymmv, but I never saw any alt-right protests or KKK rallies.

UNC and the entire research triangle area (Chapel Hill, Raleigh, and Durham) is extremely libreral.

In general, though, black/white racial tension and homophobia is much more of a problem than antisemitesim in the south.

There are slight differences between them all, but its largely academic. The people we are talking about mostly fit into all the bosses boxes, even if they wouldn't necessarily use all of those labels to self - identify

Yes, just so long as you aren't trying to replace a white person, apparently.

Venting

The search functions for this site get worse every time I try and use them.

Scrolling past videos in tapatalk while listening to podcasts stops the podcast. So damn annoying.

Decent article profiling Richard Spencer.

Doesnt surprise me that he went to St Marks.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/524505/

TR from the south. Got muh hurr did today, my stylist didn't know about the alt right haircut, so that's a positive???

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Very interesting article, thanks for posting.

If anyone's curious about Wikileaks

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/...-campaign/amp/