http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-2604653.html

A little out dated but still a good read.

So here we have 2 legal drugs - that have no medical use at all - yet there are illegal drugs that remain illegal because the government says they have no medical use and are bad for you.

It just goes to show you what a sham the government is. I believe that big businesses lobby against these drugs so that they can push their product - I.E lumber instead of hemp - painkillers like oxycodone - and petroleum companies.

It baffles me how the public has let this charade go on for so long. Every one is just a by stander to the war on drugs and I am upset about it. I don't like to see people going to prison for bogus drug charges. Then when they get out they are labeled felons? Unreal

It is just a massive waste, and i'm surprised more citizens aren't lobbying against it.

Like citizens in Colorado and Washington?

you still can't buy it - just possess it. And this is only marijuana.

welcome to forever ago

a very good video on youtube about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=8UtNF-Le2L0

yet nothing changes? Why?

Because little old ladies are scared, and powerful people are powerful.

Stossel v. O'Reilly. We need a better rep than the inelegant Stossel, imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3zd6jsjKuA

this is inaccurate. Washington State will be selling herbs at their very own state-regulated facilities. There is nothing in Colorado's new measure to decriminalize herbs that prevents a private citizen from selling any herbs to other citizens.

Why would anyone discuss anything with Bill,
he does not listen so whats the point?

Great link btw i lost it with the classic edit at the end.

this

there is a guy, once imprisoned for being one of the most prolific pot smugglers in history, that goes around to all the retirement communities in Florida preaching the benefits of herbs and the advantages over the many many many pills that most seniors take each day.

It is legal to sell in both states, assuming you have a license. You can grow up to three plants for personal use in Colorado.

The last thing this country needs is to be legalizing the "weed" and "poppers" for young hooligans so they can run around our cities spray painting train cars and blasting that rock and roll from their boomboxes. Of course tobacco and liquor are legal, as they should be. These are products with noble histories and long association with proper gentry society. It is ludicrous to compare an evening at the club with fine Cuban and a glass of single malt with hobos huffing from their crack bong in some dingy alley.

Somebody has to pay you to lobby for something.

They aren't worse in moderation. Pretty sure injecting heroine into your arm will effect your life in a more negative way than alcohol and tobacco.

However those could be worse than Pot, which somehow got bunched in with all the hard drugs.

basically money is too blame. Same reason we can bet on horses online but not poker.

thread tittle should be alcohol and tobacco even better than illegal drugs?

Is Alcohol Worse than Ecstasy - BBC Horizon

1.) Heroin A
2.)Cocaine A
3.)Barbiturates (Sedatives) B
4.)Methadone (Opioid) A
5.)Alcohol Legal
6.)Ketamine C
7.)Benzodiazepines (Sedatives) C
8.)Amphetamine (Speed) B
9.)Tobacco legal
10.)Buprenorphine (Opioid) C
11.)Cannabis C
12.)Solvents Legal
13.)4-methylthioamphetamine (amphetamine derivative) A
14.)LSD A
15.)Methylphenidate(Ritalin) B
16.)Anabolic steroids C
17.)Gamma 4-hydroxybutyric acid (depressant, “date-rape drug”) C
18.)Ecstasy A
19.)Amyl Nitrate (nitrite inhalants, “poppers”) Legal
20.)Khat (plant-derived stimulant) Legal (illegal in USA)

Yep.....
although I don't see caffeine in that list. Maybe it's under a different name i'm not familiar with. As a person who has been to jail it is upsetting to see this tragedy continue with no real quick resolution.

I am very angry that I have to pay taxes to incarcerate people who did absolutely nothing wrong but get "high" or sell drugs to make a living. I think people should do more to try and stop this senseless war on drugs.

Illegal drugs are illegal because there are very real societal costs to drug use and most people want them illegal. Alcohol was once illegal for this reason but people changed their minds and changed the constitution to make it legal.

And alcohol has medical uses (as a solvent, treating methanol poisoning, etc)

ikesssss

@DBJ taking the day off from arresting people for marijuana? P.S. I hide my stash in my crotch now...

Wow, just wow. Obv someone shedding light on a subject he has <zero knowledge about. Crawl back under your rock man, seriously.

Obvious level is obvious.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210