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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN 2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN
View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be
Hillary
332 46.63%
TRUMP
190 26.69%
In to watch it burn
161 22.61%
Bastard
73 10.25%
im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions
57 8.01%

05-04-2016 , 12:49 AM
Damn, Trump really at 263? Never would have guessed. If Christie is his VP, is this heaviest ticket of all time since Christie has to be above and beyond 3 bills.
05-04-2016 , 12:50 AM
Hillary should crush Trump, but I'm still going to be nervous until it's over

I vote in elections but never have I cared so much about voting and keeping someone out of office
05-04-2016 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Hillary should crush Trump, but I'm still going to be nervous until it's over

I vote in elections but never have I cared so much about voting and keeping someone out of office
are you talking about the woman who is a pathological liar and currently under investigation by the fbi? I would be concerned about keeping her out of office as well
05-04-2016 , 01:00 AM
I'm really interested to see how Trump affects down ballot races.

On PredictIt, there is a market for "Will Democrats control both Congress and the White House". It's currently at 22c.
05-04-2016 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake (The Snake)
I'm really interested to see how Trump affects down ballot races.

On PredictIt, there is a market for "Will Democrats control both Congress and the White House". It's currently at 22c.
Seems a bit high. GOP structural advantage in the House is real.
05-04-2016 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
are you talking about the woman who is a pathological liar and currently under investigation by the fbi? I would be concerned about keeping her out of office as well
^ that's why this will be close imo, and the people who sincerely think TRUMP has < 40% presidential equity are crazy. the derposhpere's sharpened that "librul/Hillary" trigger so well that 45% of the country has already made up their mind to vote TRUMP, and some of them don't even know it yet!
05-04-2016 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake (The Snake)
I'm really interested to see how Trump affects down ballot races.

On PredictIt, there is a market for "Will Democrats control both Congress and the White House". It's currently at 22c.
Did you see what the odds were for Dems controlling the White House and the Senate?
05-04-2016 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
are you talking about the woman who is a pathological liar and currently under investigation by the fbi? I would be concerned about keeping her out of office as well

I don't like Hillary, but she won't do much damage

Trump is a pathological liar and conspiritard who will likely ground all airplanes when the chemtrails junk shows up in his feed one evening
05-04-2016 , 01:16 AM
How many net votes does TRUMP gain if he comes out for full legalization of pot (which he's actually been on the record for) while Hillary dip****s around wanting to drop it from Schedule I to II?
05-04-2016 , 01:31 AM
dos términos de TRUMP por favor
05-04-2016 , 01:33 AM
Well done.
05-04-2016 , 01:40 AM
i voted Burn because it's the closest to Bernie. I'm holding out for the runner-runner two outer draw.
05-04-2016 , 01:41 AM
OK, one thread, pole now public. Pay no attention to the random repeated OP in the middle of the thread.
05-04-2016 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
serious answer is probably

Marco Rubio or Susanna Martinez
I seriously cannot understand why people think that Donald Trump would pick Rubio, or that Rubio would accept. How are they supposed to walk back their feud? How is Marco supposed to walk back these comments? http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-a-con-artist/

How does Donald Trump walk back this ad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryPrRr8L21M

Seriously, everyone keeps saying this, and it makes no f***ing sense.
05-04-2016 , 02:14 AM
I wonder if anyone will set odds on if Trump drops a hard C on Hilldawg in a debate,
05-04-2016 , 02:18 AM
Someone should set odds on whether he calls Bill Clinton a rapist during the debate, although that's like betting on the sun rising.
05-04-2016 , 02:35 AM
People think Hillary's scandals hurt her, and they do to an extent, but they're out there and already baked in. The right has spent 30 years digging into the Clintons.

Donald has been hanging with liberals for the past 40 years in Manhattan, and none of them have had any incentive to blow him up until tomorrow. Keeping his secrets in NYC has been the smart play until he had the nomination. He'll catch more heat in the next 6 months than a bunch of red neck southern GOP-types could compile in a 1000 years. You think Ted Cruz can put his hands on the proper op research that New Yorkers have?

I can't imagine the leaks from Trump's own social circle. It will eviscerate him, he'll handle it horribly, and it will all crumble. I am amused by the notion that he'll smack her around. She's way smarter, has thicker skin, and will clown him on every issue. There's a reason the liberal media has wanted him badly. 45% support from the party of stupid doesn't translate at the grown-up table.
05-04-2016 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
serious answer is probably

Marco Rubio or Susanna Martinez
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05-04-2016 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
Did you see what the odds were for Dems controlling the White House and the Senate?
Hard to search on mobile but I don't see a market for that. I do see Senate controlled by Dems at 60c.
05-04-2016 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Seriously the twitter of every soul-dead establishment GOP hack is a ****ing goldmine right now. I'd feel bad except they are all awful people who marched us to war on a lie and also created the sort of party that elects Donald Trump, so **** them all. I hope they get beaten on the floor of Quicken Loans arena with bunting-covered folding chairs by some car dealer from suburban Pittsburgh's large adult sons.
Speaking of, make sure you don't miss this gem of a piece in the "Trump is the Left's fault" genre. Sample quote:

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If America is turning repressive or tyrannical, it’s not because of the Right. Conservatives couldn’t even stop Donald Trump from winning the most delegates in the Republican-nomination contest.
05-04-2016 , 03:22 AM
This is gonna be so good.

Hillary is such a weak campaigner. Yea I know she was elite at the Benghazi hearing and she is smart and tough and whatever, but I cannot see any evidence of those skills having transferred to the campaign trail. Nobody really likes her and she is going to limp to the nom against an otherwise weak opponent.

The idea that there is a lurking Dem political machine waiting to take down TRUMP is wishful thinking. The R establishment has been trying to take him down for months and have been ineffective bordering on counter-productive. These guys just don't know how to deal w/ him. I can't believe that the D establishment is any bit more skillful than the R's. The R's control Congress after all.

That said, Hillary is lucky because she has Obama, who somehow seems to be literally the only person who knows how to deal w/ TRUMP by using a mix of mocking and being charismatic himself. Bill used to be that but no longer. Anyway, Obama is gonna be pretty motivated since a huge chunk of his legacy is going to depend on whether he has a successor to preserve it.
05-04-2016 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sadyoshi
This is gonna be so good.

Hillary is such a weak campaigner. Yea I know she was elite at the Benghazi hearing and she is smart and tough and whatever, but I cannot see any evidence of those skills having transferred to the campaign trail. Nobody really likes her and she is going to limp to the nom against an otherwise weak opponent.

The idea that there is a lurking Dem political machine waiting to take down TRUMP is wishful thinking. The R establishment has been trying to take him down for months and have been ineffective bordering on counter-productive. These guys just don't know how to deal w/ him. I can't believe that the D establishment is any bit more skillful than the R's. The R's control Congress after all.

That said, Hillary is lucky because she has Obama, who somehow seems to be literally the only person who knows how to deal w/ TRUMP by using a mix of mocking and being charismatic himself. Bill used to be that but no longer. Anyway, Obama is gonna be pretty motivated since a huge chunk of his legacy is going to depend on whether he has a successor to preserve it.
The Republicans couldn't take him down because the attacks that work on TRUMP - Namely being a racist, not being a serious politician, not taking serious policy stances, not having respect for women... These are all positives in a Republican Primary! Plus the Republicans can't really attack him on these things because that alienates the massive part of the Republican base that thinks these are good things.

Things like being overtly racist, being against women, and just not being a serious candidate for President don't play very well with the massive swaths of America that don't vote in Primaries but do vote in Presidential Elections.
05-04-2016 , 03:40 AM
Yeah I know this election has been weird, but there is a reason that McCain and Romney both played up their right wing bonafides during the campaign (remember Romney's idiot "double Guantanamo" crack?) and then scrambled desperately leftwards during the GE campaign. Trump is about to demonstrate why it's bad if you can't do that.
05-04-2016 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Yeah I know this election has been weird, but there is a reason that McCain and Romney both played up their right wing bonafides during the campaign (remember Romney's idiot "double Guantanamo" crack?) and then scrambled desperately leftwards during the GE campaign. Trump is about to demonstrate why it's bad if you can't do that.
This is true in theory, but he's going to be WAY on her left on the most important issues of the campaign: 1) anti interventions 2) anti trade 3) anti establishment. Romney and McCain pivoted by emphasizing dumb wedge issues less, they didn't pivot and run as outsider protectionist pacifists. In otherwords, perhaps superficial wedge issue pivots might be less effective than foundational ideological pivots, but this is to be tested obv, I'm not sure myself.
05-04-2016 , 03:53 AM
Who is better for poker?

      
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