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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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05-29-2016 , 10:15 PM

#4226

romdom

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I don't think my post was out of line at all. Attacking Soros is SOP for antisemites. I accepted your answer that you didn't know before you made any further defense.

I haven't posted about it since because you were supposedly leaving.

no i don;t think it was out of line at all. it's just an example of the preconditioned response to someone who disagrees with your side. "oh, he's probably antisemitic, if i ask about his background he'll def mention he's a jew"

it was you trying to trap me, because you have preconceived notions about me based on nothing more than a few innocuous right leaning comments on a mesage board. i don't begrudge you in anyway though.

05-29-2016 , 10:19 PM

#4227

romdom

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Originally Posted by w00t View Post
I assume you have a plethora of daily meds for non physical ailments.

I apologize profusely smrk, he was posting around the same time as you and i confused your names, he also seems to have been banned but nonetheless i do apologize, brains fried from the meds obv

05-29-2016 , 10:21 PM

#4228

Merlin's Pants

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Quote:

Originally Posted by romdom

probably been addressed, obv grunching this enormous thread....but can anyone reason why there are so many "anti-trump" protests, some of which descend into violence, and are marked by intense vitriol (usually by protestors as far as i can tell from videos etc)?

while the hateful, biggoted/racist trump supporters don't seem to do many, if any anti-bernie protests or hilldog for that matter. I don't have any data to support this and could easily be completely off base. is the Trump base too lazy to protest? seems like this hateful group of rabble rowsers would be frothing at the mouth to go throw stuff at bernie bro's and whatever minorities they hate the most at dem rallies, am i just missing it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by romdom

i firmly believe that people are definitely protesting of their own freewill and have never said otherwise. To believe that a presidential candidate's largest donor, and a known left leaning political activist wouldn't be willing to do whatever it takes to win an election then you are a naive person.

If you told me "Trump is paying for the organization of anti hillary protests through one of his organizations" or some such, i would not be the least bit surprised, in fact i think its foolish of him not to.

Also, most of my posts have been defending myself from random attacks and just absurdities like i need to take my meds, or im full of **** quit posting, or i'm dense, or i'm probably antisemitic here's a trap, or lol he has a mexican gf ya right.....really don't know that i've said a whole lot about soros really. don't think "nah man , soros" really reflects any of my posts.

I'll bite.

Why did you raise the original point in your OP?

05-29-2016 , 10:41 PM

#4229

romdom

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Originally Posted by Merlin's Pants

I'll bite.

Why did you raise the original point in your OP?

not really dangling anything obscure out there. point is sort of exemplified by the thread itself. I dont have any empirical evidence to prove this, but most of what i've seen are violent protestors at Trump rallies, and i haven't seen many violent pro trump actions. small sample size obviously.

To be clear about my actual poltical stance, for anyone who cares, they do not align with trumps in many ways at all. I would not vote for Donald trump, nor do i believe he would make a good president....ditto hillary clinton. I would call myself a Ron Paul style libertarian, not to be conflated with whatever a "teapartyer" is.

I'm just sort of fascinated by his cult of personality, and the reaction to it.

05-29-2016 , 10:44 PM

#4230

romdom

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willing to look at any thing you guys can find of "trumpeteers" being violent and or aggressive, and the other way around as well. I've seen examples of both to be sure.

05-29-2016 , 10:50 PM

#4231

LetsGambool

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Originally Posted by Alex Wice

It's not like he was caught out, he leaked the tape according to the principal reporter, so he obviously thought it helped him. I'm inclined to agree, it took the heat off a bad news cycle. The denying play gives credibility to his wink-nod angle where he says both sides of a position and winks both times. Then people hear what they wanna hear. Don is at his best with the American public when openly trolling.

Most trump supporters at this stage are hard supporters. That's why a recent poll had a 0% defection rate compared to 10 for Clinton and 20 for Bernie. He could do a lot more than lie (like shoot someone on fifth ave) and still get votes from his base.

Finally, pretending to be his publicist was a good move at the time, atleast for his objectives. Everyone knew at the time it was him, it wasn't some swindle. He did it to distance himself because of an ongoing court case, and because he likes himself and being the center of attention and talking about the women he was banging. Sure, that can be seen as uncouth, but it definitely wasn't fraudulent. From the public reaction to it, they agree - no-one gives a ****.

I still maintain that the only way to knock Trump off is to challenge his competency. Each day that goes by that he remains unopposed on this front makes it vanishingly likely for Clinton to be President of the United States. Unfortunately for her, her colossal campaign network has been mostly a joke and have not led to good results.

America has virtually no limits on campaigning or campaign finance, which has made this process essentially the world's biggest reality show. Something Trump has a depth of experience in. Trump understands that bravado and vulgar insults are most memorable. Keeping ideas and sentences short and meme worthy. Repeating core ideas often until they become true. Never giving specifics that his opponents can attack. Exaggerating claims to create an anchor point further from reality.

Trump is by far the best at the "boardroom" portion where both contestants try to get the other person fired. Since this race is only about that vote, specifics don't matter. A good analogy is grade school elections for school president. Charisma and popularity go a long way as they always have. This is why others don't get it. Trump bullies his opponents or tells a vulgar joke and classmates find it funny, not horrific. They then vote for him in droves. Trump is just the first one who really figured it out.

This is how Bush beat Gore too btw. He was just more likeable. When he talked it was with a depth of sincerity. He sometimes made people laugh with him. Trump has a lot of the same qualities. Many haven't heard him 1:1 yet but when they do at the debate some will change their mind. Plus, millennials will defect when they understand Clinton's history. Trump will be a two term president just like Bush, unless he gets shot. He will also unify the country, probably after the American debt crisis during his first term.

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05-29-2016 , 10:55 PM

#4232

lycosid

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Originally Posted by romdom

willing to look at any thing you guys can find of "trumpeteers" being violent and or aggressive, and the other way around as well. I've seen examples of both to be sure.

Do you not remember the guy in north Carolina getting cold clocked by a trumper?

05-29-2016 , 10:56 PM

#4233

romdom

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Originally Posted by lycosid

Do you not remember the guy in north Carolina getting cold clocked by a trumper?

no sorry, care to link, would love to see.

05-29-2016 , 11:01 PM

#4234

romdom

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https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...acks+protester

is what i've looked at

05-29-2016 , 11:09 PM

#4235

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by romdom

willing to look at any thing you guys can find of "trumpeteers" being violent and or aggressive, and the other way around as well. I've seen examples of both to be sure.

What is it with these people and giving out homework assignments.

Man, if you don't care about or follow politics, that's fine. But this thing where you switch from "babe in the woods eager to learn" to "rightwing partisan bashing common core and claiming Soros is funding protests"... at least switch to a gimmick or something. This is just lazy.

05-29-2016 , 11:15 PM

#4236

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by romdom

Coolstarry

05-29-2016 , 11:16 PM

#4237

lycosid

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Originally Posted by romdom

no sorry, care to link, would love to see.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...y-videos-show/

Here you go. It was kind of big news at the time. Trump was briefly offering to pay the legal fees of anyone who got arrested attacking protestors at his rallys

05-29-2016 , 11:20 PM

#4238

romdom

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

again with personal attacks and things i never said.....only used the phrase common core 1 time, and it was an unanswered question posed asking if a poster thought it had been some sort of great success. i don't think that qualifies as bashing common core, but whatever who cares about what people really say.

we can agree to disagree about soros.....some sources say some of his organization/s have been involved, some say they have not....

https://www.google.com.mx/webhp?sour...trump+protests

prob not a great indicator of the truth, but i'm willing to go as far down the page to find out as much as i can i guess, can't let you guys do my homework.

05-29-2016 , 11:39 PM

#4239

vixticator

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JUST ASKIN QUESTIONS GUIZE

05-29-2016 , 11:53 PM

#4240

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by romdom

willing to look at any thing you guys can find of "trumpeteers" being violent and or aggressive, and the other way around as well. I've seen examples of both to be sure.

dude there's a god damn video of one sucker punching a protestor in the face at a rally.

Trump offered to pay the guys legal fees.

05-30-2016 , 12:03 AM

#4241

DrawNone

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twitter update pls 100t

05-30-2016 , 12:12 AM

#4242

AlexM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

dude there's a god damn video of one sucker punching a protestor in the face at a rally.

Trump offered to pay the guys legal fees.

1. He explicitly said he'd seen examples of Trumper violence and that he wanted to see more of them.

2. Shouldn't you be banned? Or are you waiting to see if you get a convention miracle?

05-30-2016 , 12:51 AM

#4243

romdom

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Originally Posted by w00t

I accept your apology. Admitting your brain is fried is a good place to start. Tuesday you should get yourself an appointment for some serious couch time

amazing

05-30-2016 , 12:58 AM

#4244

romdom

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Originally Posted by lycosid

ty for the link

05-30-2016 , 07:04 AM

#4245

oscark

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Obama says a WALL at our southern border won't enhance our security (wrong) and yet he now wants to build a much bigger wall (fence) at W.H.

God help us all.

Oscar