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Will Pinnacle Let Me Bet Both Sides? (Not Arbitrage) Will Pinnacle Let Me Bet Both Sides? (Not Arbitrage)
View Poll Results: Will Pinnacle Mind If I Bet Both Sides? (Not Arbitrage)
Pinnacle will let you bet both sides, no problem!
12 100.00%
It's probably not a good idea to bet both sides at Pinnacle.
0 0%

03-09-2017 , 12:25 AM
Hello everyone

I've got a system that looks very much like it will be profitable if I bet this way:

Team A - Moneyline
Team B - Spread

Part 1: Team A will win often enough to make the moneyline bets profitable.
Part 2: Most of the time Team A loses, Team B will cover the spread.

I know that Pinnacle allows Arbitrage, so I assume they wouldn't mind this, but I figure I'll get advice here.

Another possibility is that I could sign up with a broker site, and then use my single bankroll across multiple sites to achieve this goal. (I assume a broker site like AsianConnect allows you to use one single bankroll for all books you are signed up for, correct? I wouldn't want to split my 'roll over multiple sites, as they would grow at different speeds.)

Thanks for the help!
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03-09-2017 , 02:14 AM
Pinnacle will be fine with it. They do not ban winners regardless of what you're betting on. If in doubt email csd@pinnaclesports.com to confirm whatever you wish to do is allowed, their support will answer pretty quickly. As far as I can tell you want to bet on say Sharks vs Raiders you'd take Raiders or Sharks moneyline as well as betting Sharks +4.5 or whatever (I can't tell exactly from your OP). If that's the case and you're just betting point spreads and moneylines on the same match then yes, it's definitely allowed.

Also you're going to get several posts telling you your system doesn't work, especially if all of the bets are on Pinnacle but i'm just answering your question.
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03-09-2017 , 09:17 AM
Yeah course they would, they like money and they believe in their lines.

And yeah, they are better at handicapping than you are and therefore your system doesn't work.
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03-09-2017 , 09:56 AM
They've allowed internal arbs to stand before. Prob a great way to get your account flagged tho.
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03-09-2017 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
They've allowed internal arbs to stand before. Prob a great way to get your account flagged tho.
Flagged for what? They don't ban people.
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03-09-2017 , 10:18 AM
As sharp.
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03-09-2017 , 10:21 AM
Which would have what effect?
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03-09-2017 , 10:29 AM
Limits. Line movement.
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03-09-2017 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jeccross
Which would have what effect?
Would you rather have a line move 0c when you bet or 15?

Every time I've crossed one of their invisible lines, they've just suspended my account, scolded me over email, and re-activated after reaching an understanding that I wouldn't do it again.

YOLO, imo.
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03-09-2017 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Also you're going to get several posts telling you your system doesn't work, especially if all of the bets are on Pinnacle but i'm just answering your question.
LoL, you were right Mr. Sharp!


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Originally Posted by jeccross
Yeah course they would, they like money and they believe in their lines.

And yeah, they are better at handicapping than you are and therefore your system doesn't work.

Last edited by Navrark; 03-09-2017 at 12:38 PM.
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03-09-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
They've allowed internal arbs to stand before. Prob a great way to get your account flagged tho.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihkel05
As sharp.
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Limits. Line movement.
This is what I am worried about. I'll be drawing undesired attention. Maybe I'll just pick the one bet out of the two that pays the best, and when I get a broker account I will bet both sides.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa!
Would you rather have a line move 0c when you bet or 15?

Every time I've crossed one of their invisible lines, they've just suspended my account, scolded me over email, and re-activated after reaching an understanding that I wouldn't do it again.

YOLO, imo.
Can you elaborate Iowa? Pinnacle has suspended your account before?
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03-09-2017 , 12:52 PM
Saving those stories for my book. Sorry.
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03-09-2017 , 12:56 PM
I would do this with multiple accounts or books personally.

But I probably would just have lost all my money to some guy with neck tattoos long before.
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03-10-2017 , 11:38 PM
What they dont like is stuff like pounding the line when it's 100 bucks and then hitting the other side when it's at max limits. Better to use your 30 other accounts that copy them for that.
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03-11-2017 , 09:35 AM
I'm sure there are enough $100 sharps in every sport now.
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03-11-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
I'm sure there are enough $100 sharps in every sport now.
Every time I tried to manipulate $100 openers they would end up moving back the right away a ton anyway way before limits were full.

Only thing that worked was hitting them a few times then quickly betting unlimited parlays on the other side at nitrogen, but hbob wised up on that. Thankfully he didn't steal my balance.
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03-11-2017 , 03:04 PM
He's always run some of the softest books imaginable.
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03-12-2017 , 11:30 AM
I've taken bets based on arbitrage at pinnacle several times. Mismatches of handicap and to win prices, generally in European rugby union and pre season AFL.

I don't recall the exact bets I've taken, but something along the lines of,

Team A to win $1.59
Team b +8.5 $2.10

Occasionally pinn changes the handicap price by a large amount, whilst leaving the to win price unchanged.
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03-12-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabaneta
Every time I tried to manipulate $100 openers they would end up moving back the right away a ton anyway way before limits were full.

Only thing that worked was hitting them a few times then quickly betting unlimited parlays on the other side at nitrogen, but hbob wised up on that. Thankfully he didn't steal my balance.
hbob owns / runs nitrogen? interesting.
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03-16-2017 , 01:43 AM
The unlimited parlays were so sick. With the exception of certain situations in baseball I wasn't even manipulating the lines, just betting really soft sports. For a while they were truly unlimited but that was fixed; by the end I wasn't even going above the standard limits, just round-robining games at the standard limit.

All good things must come to an end and of course they waited until I had a 9 or 10-1 day and cancelled all the parlays that day, fairly typical scambook response. Still continue to get the better of them though. Fighting the good fight.
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03-16-2017 , 10:06 AM
Easy to be profitable when you rob winners.

Who would have thought that Hbob is just a straight up thief? Guess game got tougher since his days of letting people RR $100 parlays.
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03-21-2017 , 11:00 AM
sounds like you should be betting under
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