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Old 07-28-2017, 08:02 PM   #126
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We just need someone to give us 10x screen limits so we can smash the wrong side with a marked account and come in for 10x the other way.

That'll really show them how sick my NBA model is.
Pinnacle takes 25k on sides and quite often double that just prior to game time. You are truly clueless if you think you can fake full game sides and totals for 10k and have the line stick till 30 mins before post time.

Ask Rsigley, he seems to be in the know
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:05 PM   #127
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Erin Rynning crushes the books and you can buy his picks for only a couple thousand dollars for the entire season.

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ER definitely wins, but he also bets very few games. 12 seasons and +185 units lifetime seems pretty small.

ER also bets real early in the day when limits are lower.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:07 PM   #128
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Rsigley is one of the three sharpest sports bettors on the planet.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:07 PM   #129
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ER definitely wins, but he also bets very few games. 12 seasons and +185 units lifetime seems pretty small.

ER also bets real early in the day when limits are lower.
ER bets? So he front runs his clients? That doesn't sound good.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:09 PM   #130
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hbob,

I know you aren't too bright. What is the first half total limit? What percentage of 50k is that?

Best of luck with that tricky problem.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:10 PM   #131
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hbob,

I know you aren't too bright. What is the first half total limit? What percentage of 50k is that?

Best of luck with that tricky problem.
I offered full game sides and totals idiot.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:12 PM   #132
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Still looking for someone who will book George Mahaven horse racing touts.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:15 PM   #133
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I don't understand why everyone is so angry, but if you want to bet I would be willing to do 1 million on either of the following to refute this claim:



a) Season long NBA bet against FG Sides and total with some min number of bets (say 150).
b) Head to head season long against FG sides and total, both starts with same amount of money and limits of say Pinny, whoever ends the season with most $ wins.

I would prefer to keep the escrow in something more stable than cryptocurrency - I'm sure escrowing 2 million would be able to get us a decent rate on the money. If you (or anyone) is interested let me know and we can work out the details.
I don't doubt that there are other guys who are winning betting NBA full game sides and totals, I do doubt that they'd win as much betting later in the day and they aren't somebody that I don't already know of. I know Z has some good handicappers and they win, but I'd put my sim h2h vs nearly anyone.

If you'd like to do a bet on total units won bet I think the fairest thing to do is stipulate some time when all bets have to be placed, say max. of 30 mins prior to start of game.

This way we can avoid market manipulation which is pretty easy to do earlier in the day (as others have pointed out).

Follow me on twitter and send me a DM maybe we can work something out.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:15 PM   #134
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I don't understand why everyone is so angry, but if you want to bet I would be willing to do 1 million on either of the following to refute this claim:



a) Season long NBA bet against FG Sides and total with some min number of bets (say 150).
b) Head to head season long against FG sides and total, both starts with same amount of money and limits of say Pinny, whoever ends the season with most $ wins.

I would prefer to keep the escrow in something more stable than cryptocurrency - I'm sure escrowing 2 million would be able to get us a decent rate on the money. If you (or anyone) is interested let me know and we can work out the details.
Bang bang. Please let this happen.

Mihkel you're just an anonymous troll spouting unsubstantiated lies unwilling to put up $ or shutup who can't use your go to argument "you're poor" for once. You and co have been trashing Hbob for years now saying he's a fraud and didn't really make his money betting NBA and that he owns nitro and then when he finally comes and defends himself turns out it's you guys who are the frauds and have been lying all this time.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:18 PM   #135
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Hbob,

Based on my off the cuff math, if you were betting every game in 04, you'd have been in for ~250k per game.

But then Nitrogen robs you for 8k a couple years ago?

Brutal.
Did i complain about Nitro when it happened, my stiff rate is around 10% each year why would I care about 20-30 btc.

Also what world do you live in where you can magically bet 250k on even full game NBA sides easily?

I don't think you realize how hard it is to bet on US sports (except for NFL sides).

If you have some magic place that will let me bet 250k a game even on full game sides or totals I'll definitely come out of retirement.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:21 PM   #136
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Did i complain about Nitro when it happened, my stiff rate is around 10% each year why would I care about 20-30 btc.

Also what world do you live in where you can magically bet 250k on even full game NBA sides easily?

I don't think you realize how hard it is to bet on US sports (except for NFL sides).

If you have some magic place that will let me bet 250k a game even on full game sides or totals I'll definitely come out of retirement.
BetOnline allows unlimited rebets every 60 seconds.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:23 PM   #137
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Bang bang. Please let this happen.

Mihkel you're just an anonymous troll spouting unsubstantiated lies unwilling to put up $ or shutup who can't use your go to argument "you're poor" for once. You and co have been trashing Hbob for years now saying he's a fraud and didn't really make his money betting NBA and that he owns nitro and then when he finally comes and defends himself turns out it's you guys who are the frauds and have been lying all this time.
This can definitely happen. I think the main concern both parties would have would be the other side having access to each others picks prior to the games starting.

1. Force the book to be pinnacle or some agreed on book.
2. Give access to the username (so it never changes), give access to the password 1x a week for record keeping (then change password
3. figure out some methodology to prevent market manipulation (forcing bets to be 30 mins prior to post could alleviate that).
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:24 PM   #138
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BetOnline allows unlimited rebets every 60 seconds.
So does pinnacle and betcris but you aren't getting 250k down without the line moving a few points.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:26 PM   #139
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This can definitely happen. I think the main concern both parties would have would be the other side having access to each others picks prior to the games starting.

1. Force the book to be pinnacle or some agreed on book.
2. Give access to the username (so it never changes), give access to the password 1x a week for record keeping (then change password
3. figure out some methodology to prevent market manipulation (forcing bets to be 30 mins prior to post could alleviate that).
Can use $1 to equal $1000 in a Pinny account like the Russians do.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:28 PM   #140
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So does pinnacle and betcris but you aren't getting 250k down without the line moving a few points.
Thought BetCRIS was a noted square book?
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:29 PM   #141
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Can use $1 to equal $1000 in a Pinny account like the Russians do.
Ya that would work especially if it was later in the day to avoid manipulation. Its trivially easy if you are doing full game totals for instance to fake games in the AM and then come back the right way later on.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:31 PM   #142
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Thought BetCRIS was a noted square book?
What do you mean by noted square book?

They don't kick out winners, they take decent bets and you can pop them multiple times. They've also been around forever and are often the first to put up lines.

They are definitely an industry leader in fact in 2014 or so they hired some new sharp guys (matt et all) to make their lines and it was one of the reasons why beating US sports got a lot tougher.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:32 PM   #143
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Ya that would work especially if it was later in the day to avoid manipulation. Its trivially easy if you are doing full game totals for instance to fake games in the AM and then come back the right way later on.
Right Angle has been known to do this with their FCS sides.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:36 PM   #144
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What do you mean by noted square book?

They don't kick out winners, they take decent bets and you can pop them multiple times. They've also been around forever and are often the first to put up lines.

They are definitely an industry leader in fact in 2014 or so they hired some new sharp guys (matt et all) to make their lines and it was one of the reasons why beating US sports got a lot tougher.
They voided an NBA bet last year on a line that was a half point off the market. That's what Bodog does not an industry leader.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:39 PM   #145
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They voided an NBA bet last year on a line that was a half point off the market. That's what Bodog does not an industry leader.
Never heard that.

I've definitely had my issues with them in the past but they are legit as far as i know.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:44 PM   #146
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Never heard that.

I've definitely had my issues with them in the past but they are legit as far as i know.
Long discussion on SBR

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...inst-them.html
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:47 PM   #147
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Oh wow thats ridiculous, they probably hated the customer (doesn't make it right).
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:51 PM   #148
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Oh wow thats ridiculous, they probably hated the customer (doesn't make it right).
In the thread they accused him of being a winning NBA bettor so we can add him to the list.

I had a similar problem with a tribal book called Sports Inter Action the transsexual head oddsmaker booted me out after only making 7 wagers which went 5-2. Not only was I not playing steam I was playing the opposite of the steam moves.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:48 PM   #149
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Pinnacle takes 25k on sides
False
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:53 PM   #150
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Too bad world's biggest NBA handicapper, who happens to post on this board but is none of the clowns in here now, isn't around to get in on this.
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