Good to see the old MB back. Taking every opportunity to pile on and with brilliant hindsight, pointing our every possible thing Chronic did wrong. Way to keep it constructive Bob.

I know your just probably being a regular poster, not a mod. But why don't you do some modding and email/pm poogs asking him what he has to say. Ban him if he doesn't respond in reasonable time period. If he doesn't pay he is a scammer. Seems like that would be a little more productive that bickering and arguing like a 12 year-old with someone who was allegedly scammed.

Gl getting paid op. Lol at the quote from poogs saying he values his name more than 1k.

Godevils, nobody has asked me to get involved. I have nothing to do with this bet. And it is not really my place. If either want to pm me and ask for my assistance than I guess I can consider doing so. It seems we have already seen what he has to say. Jumping in to contact him privately just doesn't seem right to me....especially with nobody else even asking me to.

If he is proven to be a scammer then I guess a ban can be considered although I don't think that is a typical course of action in such situations. Generally a lot of them just don't return anyway so it isn't necessary.

You are berating me to do things that I probably should not be doing at all. Get involved? Not really interested....as I said right from the beginning when I told chronic I was not interested in being an escrow for this.

The only reason I made the more recent posts is because of chronic's weird misinterpretation of my one post and then further claim that I told him to not escrow.

observations:

GS85 killin it in this thread, Iowa a close 2nd

Have the urge to point out yet again that the biggest loser out of this is Wiper. He gets pwned being the judge spending god knows how many hours dealing with this debacle and doubly so with the forums going down. As of now he is on target to receive $0, but if Poogs actually pays he will then stand to receive the handsome reward of $50 for your troubles!!!!!!! I'd take up a collection for Wiper before Chronic imo.

Leave it to Bob to play the "I told you so" card. If I ever had a stepfather, he would be like -800 to be just like Bob. Run bad.

JD: You gotta run hot in some facet of life, somewhere. No matter how small a victory, take solace in it.

I feel the exact opposite. This whole thing has been awesome. Poogs rapes someone in this thread and none other than Alan Dyer comes along. That is some sick rape-dar.

BookieBuddy managed to pull off multiple scams? Surely Poogs should never be scammed as he has ranted multiple times about being a know-it-all when it comes to gambling with locals. Something must not be right.

seriously, this is the absolutely worst stance you can take, mod or no mod.

we are supposed to be gamblers here, a guy welches on a bet with lame ass excuses and MB chimes in with multiple posts of criticism of "you shoulda escrowed". the bet was clear, it was accepted in writing by both sides. what happened to honoring your word?

does MB even gamble? how is this guy allowed to persist

Greg, if chronic doesn't misinterpret my previous posts to say things I never said, and then continue on with it, then follow up posts never happen.

For example, I never told chronic to not get an escrow. He said I did. I'm just supposed to say, "okay, I did say that"? The persisting never happens if chronic doesn't keep trying to claim other things I said that I didn't.

Wow microbob sure is an awesome mod. You have a victim and a crook and he chooses the pile on the victim. I wonder if he runs up to old women who get mugged and screams at them that it's their own fault for being so damn senile and dumb

I haven't piled on anyone.

If the woman told me that I told her to go do business with the mugger and then insisted I definitely said that then yeah, I would probably tell them that I never said that.

I agree with you, this forum is pretty boring, needed some drama like this, I can't get enough.

came here to check out the mma stuff since junkie was down, and the starcraft 2 betting amused me. then i read the poogs thread.

i've kind of realized maybe i did date rape a girl or two, so i'd like to apologize for that. just cuz a girl isn't calling the cops and trying to stab you, doesn't mean it isn't date rape.

i'd make a thread apologizing for it but better to let sleeping dogs lie imo.
i did post an apologetic comment in my searching for roomate thread!

cheers and gl to you.

edit: lol @ microbob for saying he wouldn't ban over a 1000$ scam. i've been banned on 2+2 for way way way way way less stuff before, and i'm sure this account would be banned too if it wasn't mildly famous.

Love how the diehards are trying to make Bob out to be the REAL villain in the thread.

To be fair, I am pretty sure Bob suffers from hypergraphia.

Hypergraphia is an overwhelming urge to write. It is not itself a disorder, but can be associated with temporal lobe changes in epilepsy and mania in the context of bipolar disorder.

Right on!
TOMG 2012

Maybe something could come out of this thread

Huh?

I really have to quote myself from just a few posts above yours?



Saying that I would consider it is not the same as saying I would not ban.


I haven't dealt directly with scam/ban-type stuff on 2+2 as other mods. So if this poogs thing goes on longer then I would likely consult with other mods to see what the current line of thinking is on this type of stuff and would consider it.

What I've seen from just surfing around before is that some of the scammer types are specifically NOT banned by mods simply because it is easier for the person who got scammed to still have that line of communication to give them that chance that they still might be paid eventually. Doesn't happen with many scammers of course. But the idea is that you don't like to shut the line off for the one person who actually might have gotten paid back. (that aspect is probably not as relevant here since poogs and chronic have each other's email).

There are different types of scammers also of course. Those who are on here specifically to get into the different transfer threads with perhaps full intentions of scamming. And those like poogs where the intentions might not have been so clear and they ended up doing a scammy type thing in the end.

Welching on a bet...or just hemming and hawing on the payment that wasn't escrowed...is perhaps something to handle a bit differently than the transfer-thread scammers. Maybe it isn't though. I'm not entirely sure.

I'm not making these rules myself. I'm pretty much going by other mods who are really in tune with how this stuff is done on here and they have their own logic.

Banning poogs now would be ridiculous. Banning him in 5 months if he hasn't paid can be considered (as I said) but if he hasn't even returned to 2+2 and/or isn't trying to scam others then there isn't much point to a ban.

And I don't think any of the mods would jump in to contact poogs directly to say, "hey, I know you told chronic you were going to pay. But I wanted to ask you as well...are you going to pay?" But again, perhaps I am incorrect on that as I don't follow scam-stuff elsewhere on this site all that closely.

Interesting. You might be onto something! Although fwiw I'm also a talkative guy in real life, and I feel like posting in a forum like this is more similar to conversation than wanting to write some big novel or something.

If I were SB forum mod I would handle the CHRONICFEVER/Poogs situation in this way:

- Criticize Poogs publicly
- Not send/respond to any PM's
- Not ban anyone

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