Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Sports Betting Discussions related to wagering on sporting events.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-12-2017, 12:45 PM   #1126
smokesx
grinder
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 655
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

What is the best site for a us player that accept credit card without issue? I like ignition for poker because I can just use my capital one, what is the sportsbook equivalent I guess? Thanks
smokesx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2017, 04:53 AM   #1127
The IRS
journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 216
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeSlim View Post
Heritage
So I've read stories of degens on SBR getting down $20k on college football games, etc. Those folks have made Heritage out to be comparable to 5D, but that's not the case at all when it comes to wager limits. Just wanted to share this in case anyone else has the same misconception.

I go to bet a major market NCAA game (full game). I have the reduced juice account, so it's -105. The max is $525 the site tells me. OK, but I expect that if I wait a minute or two (or if the line happens to move first) that I'll be able to bet again another $525. This is not at all the case. They took a little more over the phone very cautiously reminding me that they were doing me a favor, and there's no promise of this in the future. Worst of all, they told me it's at -110 over the phone. Really?

If someone has a trick with Heritage, I'm happy to hear, but I wanted to point this out for those of you who may have burned other accounts looking to get down more than a nickel once in a while.
I pretty much gave up on these guys, they cut an account I had to joke limits on all totals because he was beating line moves (which were mine, lol) even though the guy was down a five figure amount betting 1000 a game. At the end of the day they pay attention and anyone with a clue is cut way down, random bettors on the other hand get high limits.
The IRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 08:45 PM   #1128
JoeSlim
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 74
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Sorry if there's a better thread to post this in; however, I want to issue a warning that there's a security breach at 5Dimes. I've confirmed with several folks in the sports betting community that they too have experienced fraudulent cred*t card charges in the past week or so.

I know there's always this risk involved when depositing with online books. Surprisingly, I don't believe I've encountered this problem in the maybe 10 years I've gambled online.

Fortunately, they got a card with a low credit limit that I don't rely on using regularly and that already had a balance.

Be safe. Stick with Bitcoin. I'm active in the trading threads if anyone needs assistance.
JoeSlim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 09:51 PM   #1129
ItsOnlyChips
veteran
 
ItsOnlyChips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada @Its0nlyChips
Posts: 2,142
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

^ if true, that probly deserves its own thread. im sure any1 who bets there would want to be made aware
ItsOnlyChips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 09:56 PM   #1130
Fubster
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Fubster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,873
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Again? this happened a few months ago too
Fubster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2017, 11:20 AM   #1131
JoeSlim
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 74
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

mf they got me again - this time on a big boy card. Started out with the usual tester like $4-$5 at phony restaurant then tried to do "Uber" for $200... now... I'm no mastermind fraudster, but I'd figure that trying to falsify a merchant descriptor like Uber doesn't make a lot of sense... especially when the charge is for an even $200. Smartly that was declined, but bleh... new card in the mail.
I wonder if it's payease or capinfo that's compromised.
JoeSlim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2017, 04:19 PM   #1132
ItsOnlyChips
veteran
 
ItsOnlyChips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada @Its0nlyChips
Posts: 2,142
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

this is in nvg but feel it should be posted here as well

iovation spyware used by sportsbooks:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ation-1661688/

how to remove it:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...6&postcount=12
ItsOnlyChips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2017, 01:46 PM   #1133
NhlNut
KANGZ
 
NhlNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: RANGZ
Posts: 15,311
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Anyone established poster want to sell 5 dimes dollars?
I pay pal to you, you transfer on 5d. $300-$500.
Just moved out of Nevada, miss the action.
NhlNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2017, 04:32 PM   #1134
Knittle
journeyman
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 207
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Someone hook it up with an account on credit for a couple thou
Knittle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2017, 03:48 PM   #1135
BillyBom
stranger
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Has someone faced with such a problem as limits cutting on 5dimes?
BillyBom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2017, 09:57 PM   #1136
DefNotRsigley
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: shoutout to uncle darnell in prison
Posts: 6,587
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

limits cut at 5d? seems far fetched since they'll take $5,000 high school football teasers
DefNotRsigley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2017, 01:28 PM   #1137
Aquarelius
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 64
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

What can you do if your betting account is restricted?
also I have vip-ibc and the limits are much higher than on others but on usual acconts ... occasionally the size of bets are limited and bookmakers do not want you to know why
Aquarelius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 03:29 AM   #1138
Sobob99
newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The IRS View Post
To be fair, Pinnacle/Bookmaker/BetOnline all take respectable bets and basically have never missed a payout. 5dimes/Heritage/Bovada will cut limits fast but also always pay unless you are super obviously bearding. And if you just bet football (European) there are like 5-10 Asian books that take huge bets and always pay.

Finally although Nitrogen has stiffed me and others I still play there...they still usually pay, just gotta win enough to make up for the stiffs.
How do you overcome the cut limits?
Sobob99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 03:30 AM   #1139
Sobob99
newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The IRS View Post
To be fair, Pinnacle/Bookmaker/BetOnline all take respectable bets and basically have never missed a payout. 5dimes/Heritage/Bovada will cut limits fast but also always pay unless you are super obviously bearding. And if you just bet football (European) there are like 5-10 Asian books that take huge bets and always pay.

Finally although Nitrogen has stiffed me and others I still play there...they still usually pay, just gotta win enough to make up for the stiffs.
How did Nitrogen stiff you?
Sobob99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 03:31 AM   #1140
Sobob99
newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DMMx69 View Post
Anyone have a solid reco for a US-based bookie site? Weekly settlements. I need a new set up. PM me pls. You likely get a referral bonus or free play for your troubles.

Thanks.
I'd like to join one too. Anyone recs?
Sobob99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 12:28 PM   #1141
mpicky
stranger
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 4
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Nitrogen is best choice and safety one for me
mpicky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2017, 06:31 AM   #1142
ApolloApp
stranger
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 8
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

for me the best choice is Pinnacle and BetOnline
ApolloApp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2017, 10:42 AM   #1143
lvr
old hand
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,701
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

betonline is garbage

their withdrawals are garbage
lvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2017, 02:45 PM   #1144
CharlieKelly
veteran
 
CharlieKelly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,803
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Just thought I'd let everyone know that 5dimes will sell your card info.

I had a card I used only for Draftkings and FanDuel and decided to put some money on 5dimes. About 3 weeks later I get multiple fraudulent charges on that same card. I highly doubt they would come from either fd or dk.
CharlieKelly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2017, 02:56 PM   #1145
Mihkel05
veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,397
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

That sounds believable.
Mihkel05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2017, 04:41 PM   #1146
DefNotRsigley
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: shoutout to uncle darnell in prison
Posts: 6,587
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

i doubt it's 5d directly but it's probably whatever shady processor they are using that week
DefNotRsigley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2017, 05:01 AM   #1147
Nick Diaz
adept
 
Nick Diaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: The floor at Tristar
Posts: 815
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeSlim View Post
Sorry if there's a better thread to post this in; however, I want to issue a warning that there's a security breach at 5Dimes. I've confirmed with several folks in the sports betting community that they too have experienced fraudulent cred*t card charges in the past week or so.

I know there's always this risk involved when depositing with online books. Surprisingly, I don't believe I've encountered this problem in the maybe 10 years I've gambled online.

Fortunately, they got a card with a low credit limit that I don't rely on using regularly and that already had a balance.

Be safe. Stick with Bitcoin. I'm active in the trading threads if anyone needs assistance.
I got nailed with this too. My bank caught them fast enough and I can say 100% it was on my new card that I only used at 5D.

The Uber charge for $105 is what triggered it.
Nick Diaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2017, 11:04 AM   #1148
JoeSlim
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 74
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Hey guys - this is a really bad problem bigger than we thought. Capinfo and PayEase are hugely compromised. Just given the attack on my credit cards, this scheme has to include attempted charges in the tens of millions. It has ultimately turned out that every card I've used this year to deposit with an online book that uses these China based payment processors has been targeted. The fraudulent charges fit a typical pattern and mind you the descriptors are probably always false in an attempt to be disguised.

Related to this thread, simply do not use credit cards unless they're prepaid, and you're zeroing out and throwing away the prepaid card afterward. Many of you have taken this precaution for years, but now it's really time to 100% nix using ccs to deposit (or withdraw).

As a part-time day / short term trader, I'm looking for a way to capitalize on these companies going in the crapper. Capinfo is a publicly traded company on the HK exchange, and it turns out that PayEase and Capinfo are actually related (as one can see from this Business Wire article).

I'll consider posting about this in the BIF sub-forum. Hopefully we find a good way to take short positions on Capinfo or some relevant Index or ETF.
JoeSlim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2017, 06:56 AM   #1149
n00b590
grinder
 
n00b590's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: de ilusion tambien se vive
Posts: 654
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Shady payment processors for shady offshore sportsbooks do shady things, news at 11.
n00b590 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2017, 04:41 PM   #1150
JoeSlim
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 74
Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I bet more folks would like to profit from the shadiness instead of being one of the suckers waiting 2 months for a payout check.
JoeSlim is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.33 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ę 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online