i'm not sure but i think there was something that happened in the us a few years ago regarding the legality of online gambling. maybe they are worried about that or smth

So i got an account at pinnacle, matchbook. Also have an account at 5dimes. I also wanted to use heritage while here in canada by using skrill. But problem is they told me the deposit and withdraw limit for skrill is 500 per day and i think 1k per month? This would thus make it a huge problem for me at heritage. 5dimes told me deposit/withdraw limit is 2k per day which is fine though i would like it to be more.


I know 5dimes does b2b tranfers with other books. Heritage does as well. But form looking at heritage sports, the max you can send from your account is just 20 percent of your monthly balance? Tio me that is a problem b/c i cant withdraw more than 500 a day or 1k per month max with skrill for heritage sports. So how would i be able to withdraw bigger amounts on heritage? The thing is i know they do checks up to 3k but the thing is i know here in canada... they can only send you a check in CAD.. i dont want CAD. I want everything in USD and thus i want moneybooker withdraw in USD. I assume there is no way really around this for withdrawing from heritage? At least with depositing, i can transfer whatever amount i want from 5dimes to heritage or pinnacle to heritage but when withdrawing bigger amounts, it would be a problem? This is one of the reason why i dont even want to use heritage in canada b/c of that low skrill limit.


Also i wanted a youwager acct and same thing. They told me the limit was 500 or 600 per day and 1k per month i think for skrill. And they dont do b2b. So i assume i should not even bother with youwager then?

This was you, right?

Just skip them. Heritage is a near useless out outside the US anyway.

Is there reason you say this propplayer? Is it basically like 5dimes but reduced juice isn't as good as 5dimes?

Nope Heritage Sports is nothing like 5Dimes. They have short pays on most everything but the main markets. For these even with the reduced juice it is rare they have the best line on either side compared to all options listed on comparison sites like oddsportal.com. Once outside the US heritagesports.eu is not an important out to have.

So what sportsbook would you say are the most important outs to have outside the usa?

I have

Pinnacle
Matchbook
5Dimes


I assume the other one would be bookmaker/******?

Want a online book is exchange best or normal bookie? exchange was thinking of joining wbx as seems good for small mid size punters? do exchanges offer a lot better odds then sportsbooks?

i know wbx charge 2% on depoist but that only exchange i have left as self ban betfair and betdaq

so i would really like to know with 2% on depoist is wbx still better then a sportsbook (prices odds)

thanks

lol

has anyone who's been limited/cut off at bovada (wager referred, then rejected/or repriced) been successful in getting reinstated by working with customer service or just taking a break on the acct or a while?

sbecks, not at bovada. my guess is that they would be one of the worst books to try to reason with because their customer service is a neverending string of morons and you'd never get to speak with anyone that has any authority. also because it's such a big, impersonal book, they don't really have time to put much concern into an individual customer.

either say goodbye to bovada or time to find a friend.

They accused me of bonus whoring 10+ years ago (which is true, they had a 40% reload with 1x rollover or something ridiculous) and havent allowed me to claim a bonus since.

I still use them with regularity anyways.

lol good luck. I have an acct there thats limited to 50 max on everything and 0 on props. I started playing a ton of poker on it after it got cut off and emailed them back like a year later asking for higher limits, pointing out the fact that my poker action should at least be taken into consideration. It was a very frustrating string of emails, it was like I was talking to someone new every time and each person was more clueless than the last. Like prop said, they are a big, impersonal company and if you arent parlaying the favorite with the over for 100 bucks every game, youre gone.

I'm seeing +105/-125 on Bovada and +127/-140 on Pinny. Is Bovada showing me a sucker line? I don't have an account there.

Bovada gets more Cardinal action, LDO. Place all Sox bets there.

their email support is always good for a laugh, but there is no reason your poker play should have any bearing on whether or not they raise your limits.

sounds like you got the worst bonus offered 10 years ago

Here is a good example from earlier today. I sent an email wondering about season-long NBA player props since I saw none posted and the season starts tomorrow. Here is the response:

Thanks for contacting Bovada Customer Service.

We understand that you are inquiring about the available lines for the NBA season.

Please be advised that we usually offer all types of sports on our Sportsbook especially if there is a major event; however, we cannot guarantee that this specific line will be available as the lines that we offer are based on the discretion of our book managers. You can refer to the line posting schedule that we have at the website, you may check the link below to view this information:

http://www.bovada.lv/help/line-posting-schedule

Also, we suggest that you check the website from time to time to see if the said line will be available on the board before the game starts. Rest assured that once we have this line available, we will post it on the website immediately.

Should you require further assistance regarding this matter, you can call us at 1-888-263-0000 during your most convenient time.

Our Customer Service Team is available at service@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.

Thanks,

Bovada Customer Service

I replied:

Right. I wasn't concerned with game props but rather season-long player props (i.e., James Harden over/under 23.5 points per game or something like that). Since I've been on the site, they've been posted for MLB, NFL, and NBA before the season. Since the NBA starts tomorrow, I'm curious if there will be any SEASON LONG props.

Their response:

Thanks for contacting Bovada Customer Service.

Please be advised that we usually offer all types of sports on our Sportsbook especially if there is a major event; however, we can not guarantee that this specific line will be available as the lines that we offer are based on the discretion of our book managers.

Also, we suggest that you check the website from time to time to see if the said line will be available on the board before the game starts. Rest assured that once we have this line available, we will post it on the website immediately.

We hope this answers your question.

Our Customer Service Team is available at service@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.

Thanks,

Bovada Customer Service

Don't work too hard guys...

customer service blows but payouts are super easy. and of all the offshore us facing books they had some of the best odds for my strategy. bummer

LOL thats great

You should have kept asking

A while back I called Bovada to ask what their maximum payout is on parlays. After quite some time checking, and being all nervous, finally he came back saying something like sir can you type this URL in your browser... okay you see here it varies by different sport. It is $2,000 for NFL sides..

He sounded like he barely spoke English and first day on the job type nervous. I just thought maybe this poor guy needs this job, so I was just like okay great perfect thanks a lot as if he had helped. When he said anything else, I said nope you've been perfect thanks. Even though I had been on the phone 15 min for a simple question

Anyone know which books accessible to USA players currently have timely Western Union/Moneygram withdrawals?

Any word on betmayor? I got a phone call from them with 100% bonus but Im pretty skeptical. Are they just a new book that popped up?

Does anyone have an opinion about betonline? I relocated to canada to play on stars but also to bet on sports b/c its easier to move money. I spoke to someone who did it for a living betting sports but hes mainly an arber/scalper and someone who makes money off of bonuses etc. He told me betonline has the best bonuses in the industry right now. I told him i read a ton of negative stuff about betonline such as some poker player having his funds not paid b/c they accused him of cheating which he didnt but eventually they paid him.


Then i read about guys who would deposit for a bonus or reload bonus and then they have some ridiculous rolloever requirmeent where either the person said the did the total rollover but then was told no they need to wager much more than that etc. It seems like there are so many negative things about betonline. The guy tells me that besides betonline taking 8-10 days to do a cashout... they do cashout to skrill up to $8000 for a $20 fee which is pretty decent.


Does anyone know if you play there hoping to bust your account and then scalp your winnings on pinnacle/matchbook this would be good idea? The worst thing is of course you keep building your BOL balance high and losing on the matchbook/pinnacle side as the whole purpose is to lose the Betonline side and win on the pinny/mb side.


The thing is they advertise a reload bonus of 25% up to $1000. So if you bust your account then reload for 4k for a 1k bonus... which is a freeplay bonus which is worst 725 dollars... wouldn't it seem like a great idea to try to bust the BOL side and then lose your balance there and win on pin/matcbhook and rinse and repeat? I'm curious if anyone has done this without any problems?

The stacking rollover is a major pain. In September I seen my rollover was the cumulative of many past busted deposits. I emailed and got a quick response:

Same day got response:

And it was. I was shocked as BetOnline support never goes that well.

Problem is 2 days later, without having made any new deposits the full rollover appeared again. It is still there too.

My Opinion is this. The longer you do this, the larger the future risk of someday being ****ed with a massive rollover is. Why do they have the policy they do now of manual resets when requested as opposed to just programming it that way like it used to be? When you're asking because want to deposit $2K more sure reset (at least on paper, mine came back). But, when trying to cash out $50K well, now that $41,374,389.32 in rollover might suddenly be enforced. So while still good, bonus whoring here is a progressive risk. I'm speculating, but that's my opinion on it.