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Old 02-06-2012, 12:46 AM   #121
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Of course my capper decides to go on a 30 unit
heater when I stop following him
Sjjzjxjsjdjjj jjxkwkwq and f u Missouri
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I'm assuming your talking about Jdwarriors. thats the way college bball is , ya have to be in it for the longterm. hes back up to 50 units again , at this point , I don't know if he can win much more , but I'll probably keep riding it till he gets cold again

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Old 02-06-2012, 03:29 AM   #122
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Why pay anyone for picks? Seems pointless to me. If you can't pick your own winners there are several solid cappers whose daily picks you can find for free.

One guy I follow is up 47 units on hoops since Jan 1 betting alot of NCAAB totals, without using a ridiculous unit spread (1-2 and sometimes 3 unit plays), and was over 60% ncaab last year. I also play Rick's picks on this site. I incorporate my picks, which have lately been the worst of the 3 sources, but winning nonetheless. I also have an NBA guy who mainly does totals, and is 63% +95 units over the past 365 days.

Seems crazy that you guys would pay someone for picks then only risk $100-200/unit. I never pay and risk more per unit on my plays and those of a few select others that are readily available without paying. You have to stay on top of the picks and bet them asap, the lines almost always move against if you wait, but well worth it, as I get to play lots of action and all at favorable returns.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:32 AM   #123
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Hey early , can ya list the names here or pm me the name if you can?
I've looked around on sbr and most guys seem to be throwing darts or chasing losses.
I think if someone is betting a 100+/unit then paying like a 100$/month is reasonable.
Theres no way it would make sense to pay like 20$/pick like the brandon langs and the other scammers.
but yeah , I'm probably done with bball anyways, but I'd like to know which cappers ya follow. thx
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:17 PM   #124
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Florida to win the Ship at 40/1 is good value. I think they are one of the best 8 teams in the country. Should be closer to 20/1.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:41 PM   #125
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Florida to win the Ship at 40/1 is good value. I think they are one of the best 8 teams in the country. Should be closer to 20/1.
While they are a good team, I would be a little wary of the fact they have such a large discrepancy between their home and road game performances. They also rely heavily on the 3 which adds a little variance to their outcomes, one bad night from the 3's and their tourney could be over. They seem to shoot the 3 better at home (although I don't have stats at hand to support this). Lately NCAAB reminds me of men's tennis, usually 3 or 4 dominate teams with a chance(UK, Ohio St, Syracuse with Fab Melo, and UNC) and and noone else. Florida is definitely an Elite 8 contender though.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #126
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While they are a good team, I would be a little wary of the fact they have such a large discrepancy between their home and road game performances. They also rely heavily on the 3 which adds a little variance to their outcomes, one bad night from the 3's and their tourney could be over. They seem to shoot the 3 better at home (although I don't have stats at hand to support this). Lately NCAAB reminds me of men's tennis, usually 3 or 4 dominate teams with a chance(UK, Ohio St, Syracuse with Fab Melo, and UNC) and and noone else. Florida is definitely an Elite 8 contender though.
You bring up good points. I just think there is a little value there to put a small bet on it.

I like this Florida team more than last years team which gave the game away against Butler to get to the Final 4. Boynton and Walker aren't chucking nearly as much as they did last year. Last year Boynton shot 6.5 3's a game and only made 33% of them. This year he is shooting 7.7 3's a game and making 43% of them. That is a remarkable improvement.

Walker is averaging 2 assists more per game this year. He still takes an ill advised shot every now and then but has improved greatly.

Beal is an absolute beast and is getting better every game. He could be a "take over a game" type player come tourney time.

Great litmus test for them on Tuesday @ Rupp. I can't remember the last time they have won there.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #127
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Ytd 2-3 -$240

Wofford +11
Uconn +4
Ga southern -2 $220 each

Trying out something new. To hopefully crush CBB. 1k stop loss.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:36 PM   #128
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Why pay anyone for picks? Seems pointless to me. If you can't pick your own winners there are several solid cappers whose daily picks you can find for free.

One guy I follow is up 47 units on hoops since Jan 1 betting alot of NCAAB totals, without using a ridiculous unit spread (1-2 and sometimes 3 unit plays), and was over 60% ncaab last year. I also play Rick's picks on this site. I incorporate my picks, which have lately been the worst of the 3 sources, but winning nonetheless. I also have an NBA guy who mainly does totals, and is 63% +95 units over the past 365 days.

Seems crazy that you guys would pay someone for picks then only risk $100-200/unit. I never pay and risk more per unit on my plays and those of a few select others that are readily available without paying. You have to stay on top of the picks and bet them asap, the lines almost always move against if you wait, but well worth it, as I get to play lots of action and all at favorable returns.
Ordinarily I would agree. However JD is a tremendous value at 1u per month, and I bet BB small. If someone is stepping out for a dime + per game. It clearly makes sense. Unless of course u have the ability to pick winners. Which most people can not.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:43 PM   #129
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Ordinarily I would agree. However JD is a tremendous value at 1u per month, and I bet BB small. If someone is stepping out for a dime + per game. It clearly makes sense. Unless of course u have the ability to pick winners. Which most people can not.
My main point is that there are guys who have won consistently for many years. While they charge for their picks, it takes 5 minutes of your time to either look them up or network among friends and basically get all the picks for free. On sports I don't handicap well, I rely on these guys picks, and over the long haul they do very well....for free. I am exteme nit when it comes to paying for picks. I did it 25 years ago when I was just getting going, but vowed to never do it again after the 91 UNLV-Duke debacle, and thankfully have not.

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Old 02-06-2012, 09:46 PM   #130
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My main point is that there are guys who have won consistently for many years. While they charge for their picks, it takes 5 minutes of your time to either look them up or network among friends and basically get all the picks for free. On sports I don't handicap well, I rely on these guys picks, and over the long haul they do very well....for free. I am exteme nit when it comes to paying for picks. I did it 25 years ago when I was just getting going, but vowed to never do it again after the 91 UNLV-Duke debacle, and thankfully have not.
I used to do this and it is fairly easy however the majority of the top guys do win but at a much smaller clip then they state. Many lose. Almost every night different good cappers have opposing picks. If you have a system and like it then thats good. Good systems can always improve. Good can always become great.


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Ordinarily I would agree. However JD is a tremendous value at 1u per month, and I bet BB small. If someone is stepping out for a dime + per game. It clearly makes sense. Unless of course u have the ability to pick winners. Which most people can not.


This is where I agree with ledout. If you have the opportunity to invest 1u per month in a profitable scenario (+EV) then not doing so would be -EV in some ways. It depends upon your own individual viewpoint obviously. NCAAB seems to be a high variance weekly affair with so many games being played and new players coming in every season and some teams meshing while others have trouble adjusting. Its great to be able to get some good analysis on the game that you could integrate into any system you use. If you even use one.

I like reading Jdwarriors5 writeups. Up 50 units at primarily 1-3 unit plays and at almost 60% at this point in the season is almost unheard of. He did go through a bad streak of 2 weeks last month but most of the leading handicappers out there lie about their records constantly, lie about their spread constantly and even after that arent hitting at near the clip that he is. He also was willing to undergo the initial part of the season putting his own analysis and record to the test on these forums. All his plays are included and he is personally accessible by PM.

There are no perfect systems and unless your an expert yourself then it does pay to get a little assistance. I have been happy following most of his picks for a few years now. I would never recommend anyone leave someone they are happy with since it is pretty rare to find someone you are genuinely happy with for a season. Its just nice to have other quality options.
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:06 PM   #131
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Maryland +8 vs Clemson
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:25 PM   #132
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"I used to do this and it is fairly easy however the majority of the top guys do win but at a much smaller clip then they state. Many lose. Almost every night different good cappers have opposing picks. If you have a system and like it then thats good. Good systems can always improve. Good can always become great."




You have to know who the top guys actually are in a given sport. Most of the market is polluted with losers who rely on the money from trying to sell their coinflip picks to make it. There are, however, several big play bettors who have successfully won for many years who also happen to sell their picks. These guys bets and advice usually correlate with an eventual move in the line against their original picks.

I rely on 3-4 guys for collegebb picks, they are are all over 60% for the season, one is over 70% for past 2 months to the day, all are low volume, low units, they seldom if ever cross each other on games. For me the key is actually knowing who the select 1-2% actually are in a given sport. They don't lie about their records, they don't have to. They are consistently betting thousands on games, have won for many years and do not have to favorable missrepresent their records or their abilities. I pay for none of them.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:21 AM   #134
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Arkansas +1.5
Saint Louis -2
Central Florida -4.5
Towson +24.5

Towson's fun to watch, they scrap like gimpy hood rats (thoroughbreds, they are not).

Gotta Happy Meal ridin' on each pick, so b-balluh.

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Old 02-08-2012, 01:54 PM   #135
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St. Bonaventure vs Massachusetts -4.5
Michigan -3 vs Nebraska
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