http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/...icial-ufc.html

hendo outstruck edgar even in numbers.

Ufc count had it 80ish-50ish going into the 5th.

I agree, and the one knockdown Edgar got, he didn't seem rocked at all, more like a little slip.

Now I'm really confused Ben throw more strikes in all but one round and landed more in every round except the fist was even. What were the Frankie got robbed people watching?

http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fights/index/3725

Edit - Kirbynator beat me to it.

That's so strange, I felt like Bendo threw more leg kicks and Edgar more punches, whoa.

he probably landed 1 or 2 leg kick for every kicked he caught (most of them ), that helps.

Here are the real numbers, not the ones counted by two scrubs in a basement.

Please explain to me how that up kick is not scored a knockdown when he folders over onto his back from a standing position and then I can take these stats over the others with any legitimacy.

lol the difference between the 2 sites is pretty huge

Interesting. I stand by my scoring of the fight for Edgar 48-47. I don't really think the decision is anything I would complain about though. Edgar got a knockdown in the 5th, Henderson was clearly pretty stunned, lol @ saying it was more of a slip.

Think Henderson was the better fighter but by 10-point must I still think Edgar won. Henderson's 2 rounds were more dominantly won, so in a Japanese-style full fight scoring I would have scored it for him.

Don't really understand scoring Akiyama/Shields for Akiyama.

i bet edgar, felt bendo won. great fight. lol @ rampage.

akiyama vs. shields was not disputed was it? Haven't read entire thread since the show but it would shock me if anyone try to justify an Akiyama decision.
love this thread before the fights. some smart people in here with lots of insight. But after "their guy" lost it seems like this thread turns into some drooler-discussion fueled by heavy bias. (not aimed at just_mo and scoring it for Edgar. I think that's within reason)

edgar vs. aldo and pettis vs. bendo seems inevitable. speculations on opening line aorn?

Edgar probably a favorite. Aldos tdd is great but i think Edgar has the strength, quickness and striking to set it up. And i even think he could be a handful for Aldo on the feet. It will be hard to work that clinch + kick game vs Frankie and with their hands in close i favor Edgar.
-150? Edgar.

Pettis vs. Bendo i feel Ben will have a better gameplan this time. I see him winning a clear decision most of the time. Would probably bet him til close to -200?

This x50000. That was one of the most pathetic, uninspired performances I have ever seen from a fighter inside the Octagon taking into account talent/ability level.

I feel Bendo had a fine game plan the first time he fought Pettis, he just got outplayed. He pursued many takedowns and grappled with Pettis quite a bit, it's not like he just stood and traded with him. Favor Bendo very slightly as he's made more improvements (and I thought scoring the first fight for him was reasonable) but I think it's basically a tossup.

Really @ favoring Edgar over Aldo though? Cuz I feel pretty strongly Aldo is better than Edgar and beats him in some of his areas of strength to boot. Plus Aldo could finish Edgar while Edgar never finishes Aldo.

Yeah i favor Edgar but I'm probably biased. Grown to like Edgar a lot.

Aldos best skillset is his kicks, knees, tdd and subs. I don't think he can use a MT clinch with Edgar without getting taken down and if i were Edgar i would use my footspeed and wrestling to pressure Aldo to not use distance to his advantage.
Well on the inside i think Edgars hands are superior.

How good is edgars topgame though?

Aldo wins if Edgar refuse to incorporate a mixed wrestling/striking gameplan. He also wins if Edgar decides to dart in and out boxing like he did vs. Penn in their first fight.
Edgar should look much stronger at 145. So his wrestling should be great combined with having more pop in his punches (relatively due to smaller opponents).

got busy and forgot to bet bendo but still did good with my bet on hunt.

any value on YASUHIRO URU****ANI at +567 benividez is clearly the better fighter as i just watched video on both but yasu isn't a total scrub so i'm never betting beni str8up and am thinking about betting yasu

Main seemed close, sigh. Hope Edgar wins the FW title but I have a feeling he'll stay at LW for a while but who knows.

Bendo should beat Pettis probably in the rematch i'd say, who knows.

If only i'd stuck to my original picks and just bet Tamura Lee and Edgar i'd have crushed the event given the two huge dogs won but noooo I had to go and bet on Okami and Kongo as well. None of the decisions went my way today, lost about half my profit from 143 back, if I get the Mizugaki and Edgar decisions I do okay despite losing my biggest bet on Kongo oh well next.

You can get +674 bestfightodds.com is your friend, also he's at better than +600 on 5 of the 6 sportsbooks that the price is listed on that site

No idea as I haven't seen him fight fwiw just letting you know

I know it's easy to be aftersmart :P But I'd never bet the Kongo vs Hunt fight any big amount on either fighter. We've seen Kongo doesn't have the best chin and you rarely see Kongo pursue takedowns, he's not a real good gameplaner by any means. More like if the takedowns come he takes them, but he's not going try to set them up, like I said before in thread. On top of that, he's facing one of the best strikers in HW with an iron chin and is improving as a fighter vastly.

Swiftx +1

When the big guys are fighting its just that much more likely to end in upset KO (especially with the striking of a guy like Hunt). Many of these HW brawls seem to be a game of "who can connect clean first".

Kongo should be the favorite, no doubt - but I think the line should've be way close to even than it was. The fact that Kongo fought Mittrione recently and looked really good probably skewed it a bit too much.

Awesome night for me with Lauzon, Hunt, Shields and Bendo!

Night of the underdogs really, Tamura, Lee, Henderson, Hunt, Boetsch and Cariaso all winning

Don't forget Bader as well :P He was frigging 3, too bad I only got him at 2.3 or smth. I think the biggest upset was easily Boetsch. Like I could see Hunt outstriking Kongo, I could see Vaughn winning a decision, Bendo winning a decision as well( and I don't think it's a big upset that he won really), but I couldn't see Boetsch doing what he did to Okami.

There's a reason why he was the biggest underdog of the night, it was a total fluke... It's like saying after Serra beats GSP " omgz nowai would I ever thought that happens" to a lesser extent.

I assume you mean the Okami Boetsch fight, and if so, I agree. Okami is simply better than Boetsch at everything. If they fight 100 times, Boetsch KO'ing Okami happens like max 10 times, same with GSP vs Serra, Serra hit his one outer basically.

Yeah and to top it off it's not like Okami came out and laid an egg, the guy was putting on a sterling performance. That's why finishing fights is a good idea though I guess.

Thiago Alves vs Martin Kampmann fight, I think Alves is going to take this. While I think Kampmann has very good standup, I think Thiago is 1 step above i terms of athelisim and technique. Alves weakness is often his groundgame, but he has pretty decent TDD's and bc Kampmann isn't the best gameplanner, like he stands with strikers and grapples with grapplers, I think he's going to get TKO'd by Alves or possibly a ugly decision.