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02-04-2018 , 02:26 AM
Hometown cooking on display here at least twice tonight but Anders only has himself to blame for letting the judges be able to do this to him.

Machida wants to fight Bisping? Could be interesting and home advantage may play a part in the result of who wins.
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02-04-2018 , 02:27 AM
This is why we bet on Brazilians by decision in Brazil

I do feel bad for anyone who bet Anders, but it's not the worst robbery as 48-47 Machida is acceptable even if I had it 48-47 Anders personally. I guess if in doubt the judges tend to go with the home town guy/bigger name which is pretty disgusting.

Machida's been on the winning end of 2 robberies (Shogun and Anders) and the losing end of 2 robberies (Davis and Rampage) now.

I think Machida vs Bisping is a great fight for both guys; both big names, ex champs, who are getting old, don't have insane KO power anymore and are late in their careers. Set it up to headline a Brazil or UK card and it works nicely.

Won about 3 max bets for the card nice to have a good one after three losing cards back to back.

Funnily enough 3 of the 4 fighters I capped myself won (and I only added Golm small last minute for a sweat) and the two I bet because they steamed in heavily and I got a nice price vs close lost

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02-04-2018 , 02:36 AM
+1.5u for the card

congrats for everyone that got the +700
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02-04-2018 , 03:04 AM
What a night! The Dragon is back! I am still shaking from the adrenaline. Biggest win ever for me, $2789 for the card including late and live bets.
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02-04-2018 , 03:07 AM
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There's giving the home fighter every chance to fight back and then there's whatever the hell that was with Mario Yamasaki letting Priscila Cachoeira endure a nine minute beating and 200+ strikes.

A bloody disgrace. Easily could've been stopped in the first round but pressure of the home crowd or something meant Valentina Shevchenko had to go for the choke for Mario to call it off.
This was my sad takeaway from this UFC. Went over to some old peoples snooker party and lobbied to have the UFC on the screen even though their perception of MMA was stuck in the 90's and this was the 1st fight we watched. Made me sick to agree with them on this count.
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02-04-2018 , 03:09 AM
I had it pretty easily r1,2, 5 for Machida. Don't really get the controversy.
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02-04-2018 , 03:12 AM
tbh I had a feeling prior to this card that Machida vs. Bisping was going to be in the works for the 02 arena that Bisping said he wanted to retire in. What I'd love to see is a double retirement fight. Neither guy should get really hurt as neither has the stomach for a true war. Good payday and nice send off to both.
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02-04-2018 , 03:19 AM
Just viewing some of the prior fights on the card and Tim Means has fallen off a cliff. 2 fights now in a row he lost to near bums via decision. (he got robbed in this one) but who cares the Means of 2 years ago would have KO'd or subbed this 2 punch lazy wide combo predictable puncher in Rd1.
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02-04-2018 , 03:40 AM
I'm not sure Machida wants to retire but I agree it'd be a perfect send off for both guys. As we saw today Machida's probably fine if he's okay with not being a main eventer and top 10 fighter anymore, he can still headline fight nights and stuff vs 15-30 ranked type guys who are prospects just keep him away from top 10 guys who aren't also past their prime.

I'd need to rewatch r2 to see how I score it fully focusing on scoring, I remember thinking it was an Anders round but could go either way, it's not the biggest robbery of all time or anything, 48-47 Machida is a perfectly acceptable score, it's just 49-46 is absurd as he obviously didn't win round 3 or 4.
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02-04-2018 , 09:35 AM
Props to Lyoto glad he got the win.
Only had a small bet last night on Machida by TKO.

Machida vs Bisping is a fight that makes sense.
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02-04-2018 , 03:01 PM
Yeah, Machida Bisping, let's make it happen. Winnable fight for both and a good last fight for both fighters. While I think Machida looked decent in the fight, he has declined too much physically and the new breed of fighters are a bit too much. I mean, you could give him easy matchups if he wants to fight, but he'll get destroyed by any of the top 5 guys and most likely in a devastating fashion. He had his run and he'll always be my favorite MMA fighter, the Machida era no matter how short it was, was the last time I thought a fighter could not be beaten.
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02-04-2018 , 04:59 PM
Looking forward to next week at UFC 221, I'm surprised that the over is set so low at 1½ in the interim MW title fight between Yoel Romero and Luke Rockhold, so I really like it at -160. I don't see either one of these guys finishing each other that quickly and I would not be surprised to see this go the distance like Romero vs Whittaker did. My bet is 3.2 units to win 2 units.
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02-04-2018 , 07:51 PM
I like that bet. I haven't really attempted props much, but I'll tail that for fun even at a worse price of -171.
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02-04-2018 , 08:13 PM
Also like Li Jingliang at -185 over Jake Matthews. Jingliang is a hard puncher, excellent grinder and a good size welterweight while Matthews is a former lightweight who has looked good against the right opponents, especially where he had a ground advantage. Maxed a small opener on Jingliag ML risking 2.5 units to win 1.35 units.
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02-06-2018 , 03:12 AM
Actually put that exact bet on before reading your post and like it a lot, Rockhold has been talking a lot about being more patient after the Bisping fight and I don’t see any way he finishes Romero that quickly.

Romero could decide to bullrush Rockhold since he sometimes likes to start fast, but this is a 5 rd fight and he’s most likely going to try to pace himself in light of his cardio issues. So yeah, good bet.

More generally, I can’t figure out who I like in the Rockhold Romero fight. Going to be a really exciting matchup, Rockhold is at his best when he can take guys down and beat them up from ontop, but good luck doing that to Romero. But Romero is prone to gassing and I just don’t see him winning a decision here if this goes 5 rounds. I guess if I had to guess I’d say most likely outcome is either Rockhold wins by decision or Romero wins by KO, but who the hell knows. Should be a great fight though, one of the best 5 round matchups in a while.
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02-06-2018 , 02:21 PM
Not sure anyone has enough funds on both books to make it worthwhile, but the 221 main has a pretty big arb opportunity right now. Romero is +130 on 5Dimes while Rockhold is +150 on DSI according to Bestfightodds.com

Good Luck to anyone if they have access to both books.
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02-06-2018 , 02:52 PM
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Not sure anyone has enough funds on both books to make it worthwhile, but the 221 main has a pretty big arb opportunity right now. Romero is +130 on 5Dimes while Rockhold is +150 on DSI according to Bestfightodds.com

Good Luck to anyone if they have access to both books.
Whatever BFO is showing for DSI is probably simply not accurate.
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02-06-2018 , 05:30 PM
Have 5dimes released odds for the other under card fights yet?

Can get Nguyen at 2,2 and Pearson at 1.72 at a Euro bookie,
These look good compared with Sportsbook the only other book showing odds for these fights on Bestfightodds.
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02-06-2018 , 08:01 PM
Moneyline odds are out on 5D, but not over/unders.
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02-06-2018 , 11:32 PM
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What a night! The Dragon is back! I am still shaking from the adrenaline. Biggest win ever for me, $2789 for the card including late and live bets.
Great job Jimm !!!

So happy for everyone that won and to have you back

I made a bit of $ but was too busy taking naps between fights to post all my bets. So far the year has started just right Good luck to everyone in 2018 !!!!
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02-07-2018 , 04:01 AM
I'm thinking about maybe Rockhold by decision with a Romero KO hedge. Rockhold winning a competitive decision or getting KTFO'd seems right
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02-07-2018 , 11:35 PM
Got on the Rockhold/Romero o1.5 @ -172 1.72u to win 1u

Romero is not gonna go crazy the 1st round with this being a 5 round fight against a stud like Rockhold. The second round he will be very dangerous but I just gotta dodge those 2.5 minutes and we are gold. Rockhold won't make the same mistake as with Bisping and will take the 1st round off too. I think Rockhold wins this one in the 4th with a gassed Romero tbh.

Li Jinglian (-160) I swear to God I was staring at this line at -155 a minute ago but didn't pull the trigger. So mad lol 1.6u to win 1u

Thinking of betting Blaydes but that late Hunt steam from casuals gotta be coming.

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02-08-2018 , 02:27 AM
I think i'm leaving Hunt/Blaydes alone, Blaydes could take him down a ton and win via that and he survived a long time vs Ngannou who is one of the few guys who hits as hard as Hunt, but at the same time Hunt is a better striker than anyone Blaydes has beaten and is fighting in front of a home crowd and age doesn't seem to matter much to him so I think i'm just going to pass. Hunt could get a walk off KO or get taken down and beat down like he did against Miocic.

Tuivasa is an athletic beast with power at HW but his skillset seems very green, so probably leaving that one with him as a decent fav even though Asker is pretty bad. If I can get Tuivasa by TKO or wins by r1 TKO at a decent price i'll consider it since thats by far the most likely outcome. If not might just leave it. I'd take him at like -175 but not at -275 given his technical deficiencies and the fact its HW

Rockhold by decision at +420 seems solid vs Romero. Will def consider that I could see him winning a distance based decision with his kicks etc and while he'd finish Romero if he takes him down that seems unlikely. I may consider a hedge of some sort on Romero wins by TKO in r2/3 as well if the price is good.

I sort of like Li too and would bet him if it wasn't for home crowd judging and decent chance of a weird 29-28 that could be hometown judging. I used to be really high on Matthews and think he's future top 15, I don't think that anymore but I do think he has more potential than he's shown. Li is slightly underrated and should win here and if it was a pickem i'd take Li but I don't really want to lay -160ish even though I think its +EV. I'd lay -160 in Vegas or in Asia but not in Australia. Might leave it. To be fair to Matthews it turns out that Lee and Vick are both really good fighters and he won the Holbrook fight imo (although maybe not with the Velikovic fight). I think Matthews may struggle at 170 and should possibly lose some muscle and go back to 155 but who knows. He really needs to move to the US and join a real camp. I think the Li bettors in thread are on the right side but I still hope Matthews puts it together at some point.

I hope Nguyen beats Formiga too but leaning Formiga at the price, that said reluctant to bet it too due to the potential for home crowd judging in a fight likely to be a 29-28 a lot.

This card just doesn't seem super appealing in general. I'm most tempted by Rockhold by decision I think. Rockhold and Romero are two of my least favourite fighters in the UFC personality wise, so it's a tough one to want to cheer for either guy in the main event.

Pearson vs Hirota is interesting too, Pearson is done but Hirota is a huge step down in competition for him which is interesting. I'd lean Pearson normally but probably leaving it alone too.

Kennedy vs Volkanovski is one of the most relevant fights on the card, surprised neither guy has more hype. Again not one I want to bet but I hope Volkanovski wins.
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02-08-2018 , 03:36 AM
I'm listening to Ben Nguyen being interviewed on The MMA Report Podcast and he's explaining how he and many of the other fighters have to wake up at "stupid o'clock" and watch what they eat so they can comfortably to get on the bus like four hours early before they have to compete and be on site to warm up. He's actually the fourth fight of the card after the three Fight Pass prelims and first fight on the tv prelims which start at 9 AM locally. I did the math and he is correct. Perth, Australia is 13 hours ahead of the U.S. East Coast. The FS1 prelims start at 8 PM EST Saturday evening. That means that the first Fight Pass fight starts locally at 7:30 AM. These dudes are going to be waking up in the middle of the night to get ready to fight at the crack of dawn! This has to affect performances greatly.
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02-08-2018 , 09:50 AM
Yeah but it affects everyone pretty equally. Non Australian people will be fighting closer to normal time but will be more likely to be jetlagged, Australians will be used to it since this happens for a lot of major Australian cards and im sure all/most of the fighters would prepare their sleeping hours from at least a week or two out to ensure they're on the correct sleeping schedule
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