I agree that Woodley doesn't have the best technical skillset. If he were to fight a guy like Jorge Masvidal my money would be on Masvidal. But, as the saying goes styles make fights. If you were to design a guy in a lab to beat someone with world class BJJ and he couldn't have world class BJJ himself, you'd design a guy who looks like Tyron Woodley.

Outside of a highly unlikely lucky TKO, I personally just don't see how Maia wins. He'd have to get the fight to the ground, and Tyron has better TDD than Masvidal, is incredibly strong physically, and has fists of steel. I don't see how Maia gets this fight to the ground, and I think he gets KO'd a lot if he is unable to land the TD.

I think Valentina will beat Nunez, Nunez is great and I think she's probably the hardest hitter but Valentina won't just stand there like Rousey or Cupcakes. Add in the cardio issues and I think if Nunez does not finish her early on, Valentina will start pushing the pace and out-point her quite easily and take the later rounds.

Valentina for the win with some hedges for Nunez R1+2.

Woodley v Maja fight I initially thought that Maja could push the pace but then I realised that Maja kind of gasses himself out too and can't really get TD's anymore either. I don't see Maja winning either tbh. He could get lucky and take Woodley's back (highly doubt it/punchers chance really) or win by decision (again don't see how, but I guess he could out-grapple, and hang on to Woodley's legs for 25 minutes). Other than that, and Woodley would have to have 0 answer to that, which is highly unlikely as mentioned how strong and good at wrestling he is.

Much more likely he'll defend the take down attempts, and probably KO or TKO Maja. Also don't forget about those leg kicks of Woodley, I think he should be smashing Maja with those in order to slow him down.

It's is an interesting match up and Maja could be victorious if Woodley gasses and Maja doesn't, if Maja is relentless at making Woodley work in the first few rounds defending take downs etc, and Maja still has gas later on in the 3rd/4th/5th to sub him. In saying that though Maja needs to have enough gas too and Woodley has shown that he can fight cautiously and preserve his tank.

I wound up with some Pacquiao at -366, there's been huge arbs between Pac and Horn all day with the Australian books liking Horn and offshore liking Pac. From what i've read I doubt Horn has more than a puncher's chance though and Manny has faced and beaten guys better than him in the past year. Granted i'm not a boxing expert.

Re: Woodley/Maia obviously if Maia wins it will be by submission/decision via getting takedowns or a standing RNC/guillotine (RNC being the most likely). I agree it's a bad matchup for Maia but I can't help but feel like he's going to get the job done more than I expect the odds to suggest

lol judges etc at least our MMA judges aren't as bad as boxing's judges

Never betting on boxing again idk what I was thinking. Commentators described one of the scorecards as unconscionable. Amusing if disappointing. I mean it was a close fight but that one judges card was hilarious

Just waking up to find out horn won a brutal 12 rd,

All those drugs manny has been taking must have added concreate behind his chin as well as bringing him up to 145 from 105 with pure muscle mass and power retaining.

Dude took so much performance drugs his head shape changed.

Inside the distance was a good play here as the set up was.


Ref nunes vs the kickboxing girl valentina, did you not see the first fight tick, nunes had easy movement around her and valentina was basicly a sitting target extreamly defensive with no movement, she got taken to the ground and smashed up.

Nunes a bad match up for her, she needs a stand and bang tank battle not in with all that nunes brings to the table. Valentina is tuff but needs movement, going to cost her a lot of damage waiting for her to tire, good luck with that.



Dwyer 17-7-2 Post Fight Manny Pacquiao v. Jeff Horn

Balla, watch that fight and you will see Nunez losing the 3rd round because she gasses after 2 rounds. You will also see Valentina getting stronger and eager to fight on. While I agree with you that Nunez is a beast I think Valentina is a beast too and got good counter striking and she's more than capable of defending herself. Nunez won't have an edge standup and unless her cardio has improved a lot I don't see her winning unless she finishes Valentina in r1/2.

ok I see your point,

I wonder why more fighters (like nunes) don't take up Triathlons to really work the gas tank.

I don't think Nunes was as 'gassed' as everyone is making out, she knew she dominated r2 and won r1, r3 she got clipped and then just went into damage limitation mode. I am sure there was some gas left in the tank.

Have just played Travis Browne for 4u @1.55

For me thats the best bet on the card.

Watched the fight this morning.Great fight but horrible judging. One judge had it 117-111 completely ridiculous. Boxing is plagued by it the same as MMA.

Pretty disappointed I missed the Santos open, I think I still like the current price but in no real rush to bet anything

I liked Lawler before the fight got moved, I lean Santos, Werdum and I did like Whittaker when he was a small underdog but missed the boat there. Omielanczuk is sort of tempting as such a big dog at HW when Blaydes might be a prospect but is still relatively unproven too. I lean Shevchenko too but not really keen to fire it as Nunes is a beast and is likely to win the first round at least so it's more attractive to maybe livebet Shevchenko if she makes it out of the first intact

Kind of want to fade Pettis and Browne on principle too even though they should both win their fights. Holy **** Travis Browne is the worst waste of talent ever. I swear if you put me in his body and gave me a year or two to train at a real gym with no MMA experience i'd do a better job than he has since he moved to Glendale and Edmond. He should be wrecking anyone who isn't athletic at HW and he just doesn't anymore. He's so athletically gifted yet so... incompetent at everything.

I know a part of puzzle, its one of the first rules in either a dojo or for a monk.

Mindfullness,

If i was practising mma professionally, i would live with zero electronic distractions. Would do all rocky sht, full sleep parttern, long arse post work put meditation practise, my mind would be a sword alway being sharped.

Your mind is the weapon before your body right?

To raise your game to the highest levels takes compassion funny enough, to empty your cup to become one with everything, play brings evolution, devlopment.

Life is a migration project to some thing truely amazing, thats a good idea for people to keep in mind whilst practising smashing other people in the face, lol.

Rocky.m had a good training routine.

Id get out into the forrest or up high and live like an animal, core, cardio and all top chakra sparkling.

You mind is meant to be extreamly spacious not any place in perticular, i guess this is the value of a true master, near them you are right as rain, away from them you are a fraction.

For UFC 213 I have:

Overeem
Romero
Browne
Pettis

I like the matchup against Werdum stylistically for Overeem. You can never be too sure with Overeem since he has a glass jaw, but it'll be tough for Werdum to get him down, he's the better striker and he's been fighting well ever since he moved to Jacksons. I'm surprised Overeem isn't more of a favorite, this is probably my favorite bet on the card.

Romero is just an incredible freak athlete and I expect him to be able to take Whittaker down. I think that Whittaker has maybe gotten a little bit too much credit for his win over Jacare, but I guess we'll see.

I agree with westswindon that Browne is a good bet - he's got red flags with all of his losses, but he's always had good take down defense, should have a big edge in the striking game with his range and is fighting a guy on the wrong side of 40.

Pettis is probably my least confident bet, I almost passed on this one since Jim Miller is tough and stylistically he could cause problems for Pettis but at the end of the day this fight is an absolute must win for Pettis and I expect him to respond accordingly.

Think that'll pretty much be it for me on this card, but would like to hear people's opinions if they think any undercard fights are worth betting on.

Sometimes you surprise us all balla heh. You do have to account for training partners, strategy etc and all that other stuff as well. We've had several examples of people taking up mindfulness and then go on to losing. Mindfulness isn't some silver bullet, it's simply experimenting until you find out what works for you, for some it's meditation, for others it's something else.

Anyone think Conor has a chance against Floyd?

UFC 213 Countdown: Yoel Romero vs Robert Whittaker



Damn, Romero is straight out of an episode of American Gods, Balla this should inspire you.

I think Conor has a chance in the first 3-5 rounds at which point Floyd should take over. Floyd can start out slow and that is when Conor needs to surprise him. Sure Floyd hard to hit etc but if Conor lands 1 shot I really think Floyd is going to go sleep. Not only that but Conor is a ko artist who wants to get the fight done early. He probably does not want the fight to drag on, so look for him to ko him early. I've seen Floyd stunned in the past and both times his opponent did not go for the kill, I expect Conor to really go for the kill, once he sees Floyd's hurt.

For me the real question is does Conor hit harder than say for example a Canelo, Pacman or Hatton, if so if they weren't able to land what makes us think Conor will.

Conor got some advantages such as height, range, size, he's orthodox (Floyd has had probs with orthodox), Conor can counter strike too as well as stalk his opponent.

The bet has to be on Conor by KO all day long, if odds are decent I'd hedge with Floyd by KO too, as I really do not see this going the distance.

As with anything if you want to compete at highest level you need to be a champion ninja mental warrior, if you are not practicing mindfulness you are probably not competing at the highest level. These guys will probably be doing all sorts of mind exercises/body mind routines. Even Yoga will help but as Balla says it wouldn't hurt to go full Chinese warrior monk mode, living very basic with nature, with no distractions at least part of the year, just to find inner peace, find yourself, know yourself, be one with yourself.

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Turn his lights out Bobby Knuckles! It's the fight i'm most looking forward to this weekend. No idea who wins I think it's a real pick'em fight kind of surprised casual money isn't coming on Romero though

Re: Conor/Floyd I assume Conor has a 1-5% puncher's chance in the first few rounds to turn Floyd's lights out due to age + Conor's power but I fully expect it to be a one sided beatdown in Floyd's favour after the first round. I think Conor's best and probably only chance is to turn his lights out in the opening seconds with the first punch he throws before Floyd has any chance to adjust his gameplan like he did to Aldo. Then again if it goes the distance who knows, obviously Floyd will win the fight but boxing judges are so corrupt and incompetent (117-111 Horn and a UD after Pac landed twice as many strikes lol) that anything is possible

Cerrone/Lawler moving to 214, 214 is shaping up to be a bit of a supercard, Jones vs DC 2 and Woodley vs Maia, Cerrone vs Lawler, Manuwa vs Oezdemir, Cyborg vs Evinger, Barao vs Sterling which could have been a title fight a couple years ago, Northcutt vs Makdessi, Ortega vs Moicano, Lamas vs Knight - I assume the main card is the 3 title fights, Manuwa/Oezdemir and Lawler/Cerrone, it's crazy that the entire prelim card would make a strong fight night card by itself and all of those fights could be on a PPV main card somewhere normally.

In regards to Conor vs Floyd I have already bet Floyd at 1.2 as its great value in my eyes.
Floyd should really be something like 1.07-1.08. I don't really see how why anyone would bet Conor if your betting for value.

This weekend I have Browne at 1.52, Pettis at 1.44 and Whittaker at 1.95. I feel pretty strongly about all these bets being value. Even though Browne and Pettis both have been pretty lack luster their last few fights. Style wise these are two of the best fights they could be given to bounce back.

Decided to fire Santos at -137 for 5u and Werdum at +110 for 5u. Should have locked in Werdum earlier when he was +120ish, I think he's a small favourite vs Overeem overall. Their last fight was so long ago and Reem's off the juice since then and Werdum actually found some success standing. Econoreem could easily win a 30-27 if he can avoid Werdum getting him to the ground or connecting on his chin for the entire fight but i'm just not sure he can - this is still Alistair Overeem, the man who wilts under pressure when he's landed on. Yes, Reem has the striking edge and Werdum will struggle to take him down but Werdum is the more balanced martial artist now, I have no idea how the fight will play out but I think it's a flip at worst

Santos I should have caught the opening line, it's a step up in competition for Meerschart and Santos is probably underrated because he got caught by a journeyman in Spicely. Santos is a beast on the feet, sure he isn't top 5 or anything but he should be able to handle Meerschart and the steam seems to agree. Meerschart's on a nice winning streak but this is a BIG step up in competition for him and unless he's a top 15 fighter and we just don't know that yet I doubt he gets through Santos.

I might play Whittaker anyway but i'm not sure that it's value with him as the favourite, I liked him as a dog but I think it's a pickem fight even though Romero is slightly overrated he's still a beast. Could go either way. I'd love to see Whittaker knock him out and Whittaker vs Bisping would be fantastic regardless of whether they have it in London or Melbourne/Sydney it'd be a huge headliner in either guy's home country.

Forgot I had access to one of the Aussie books with even better prices, doubled my bets adding on Werdum at +122 and Santos at -123 to improve my average prices a bit.

I kinda want to bet Whittaker at -120 but it seems like too much even though I think he matches up well with Romero

I added Amanda Nunes for one unit after watching the UFC Countdown. Maybe not the greatest thesis, but I was impressed with the structure that she has around her at American Top Team and believe she'll show more improvement than her opponent since their last fight.

Is Omielanczuk really a +5xx dog at heavyweight to Curtis Blaydes? Crazy line movement, maybe he's injured or something? I mean, it's heavyweight. Although I guess Omiel doesn't have the best puncher's chance given that's not his style but still, outside of the top 10 at HW is any UFC HW with both wins and losses in the octagon really +550 or whatever against any of the others?

Jesus did Michael Johnson really open at 2.93 against Gaethje with Pinny?
Was hoping the odds would be pretty even or Gaethje as a slight fav.

At current odds though I don't really Johnson.