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Originally Posted by luckproof
Swoop how do you see Conor Alvarez playing out? I feel like Conor can hurt Eddie more than he could Diaz, but if he gases first it's death every time. EA will make him pay more with that wrestling.
Pretty much the same except I expect Conor to connect with a big shot in the first two rounds and find the finish more often than not. If he doesn't, he will probably gas by round 4 or so and get submitted or decisioned losing the championship rounds. Conor needs to win the first three rounds to have a chance of winning a decision imo, although that is also possible. If Alvarez can't take Conor down at all then Conor is likely to find his chin for the finish at some point - I expect him to clip Alvarez standing multiple times with precision striking though early. Alvarez needs to take him down quickly and often to win the fight or to survive until Conor runs out of gas. I think the true price is in the -150 to -170 range for Conor, but I want to be on that side and I expect him to close at more like -175 or something.
I'm still a bit of a doubter of Alvarez, his best 3 wins other than RDA were all split decisions, I had the second Chandler fight for Chandler from memory and I sort of think Pettis is like a worse Conor - better bottom game, maybe better body kicks but otherwise Conor has faster hands and more power and better takedown defense. Beating Melendez on PEDs was impressive and so was knocking out RDA, Alvarez is very legit, but I can't help but feel if Cowboy can hurt him standing Conor can as well as long as he can keep the fight on the feet. I tend to think that Alvarez is drawing thin to dead on the feet (punchers chance only), whereas others may think he could be competitive. If the standup is close and Alvarez mixes in takedowns he's retaining, i'm just not sure he can do it.
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Conor KOs him on the first major exchange. I also wouldn't be surprised if bullrushes him with a takedown attempt, and at that point either a dominant first round for Alvarez or a counter and KO are both possible. I also wouldn't be surprised to see it look like Conor vs Mendes or Silva vs Sonnen 2, where the wrestler lands his first shot, beats the striker up for a round with GnP and is finished in brutal fashion in the second.
Nice card for Bellator Jim, shame I wasn't awake to tail some. Didn't realise Lashley was fighting today. I hope we get to see him in the UFC (or at least fighting top 20 HWs in Bellator) before he's too old.
Wonderboy vs Woodley I expect will look like Rory vs Woodley, except Wonderboy will KO him quite often if he breaks him or lands one of his spinning kicks against the cage. I think it will be a dominant one sided beatdown and if Wonderboy can get through Maia he will be a dominant champion with 3+ defenses. If anyone wants to lay me a price that Woodley wins zero rounds on any judges scorecard (regardless of whether it goes to decision or ends in a finish) i'd be interested in a sidebet there.
Karolina vs Joanna I think could be FOTN if the Conor fight is over quickly, I may play this one and the main event for FOTN. Wonderboy vs Woodley could be too if it turns into a war, but I expect it to be too one sided. Cerrone fights are always live to, but I don't expect Gastelum's style in the fight will lead itself to FOTN this time. The other real shot is Edgar vs Stephens, but I expect Edgar to be 30-27ing him so that's less likely too plus it's on the prelims. Miller vs Alves could be live as well, but I think that'll be too one sided as well either way depending whether Miller can get it to the ground or not.
If I can get +500 or better on the womens title fight for FOTN I think i'll be taking that one, as I can see it being a back and forth 48-47 quite often. Joanna has to be favoured to retain but i'll be making a small play on Karolina once she gets to +350ish if she does
Khabib vs Johnson is interesting, if Khabib struggles to get takedowns like he did against Tibau it'll be close and even leaning MJ, but Khabib hasn't struggled to take anyone else down in the UFC and Johnson has been submitted six times, so i'm expecting a 30-27 Khabib or possible submission if he breaks him. I really like the +500 sub line, assuming the -250 to -300 is accurate for ML, Khabib wins something like 73% of the time (in my opinion even more often) and while a decision is most likely, I think sub is way more likely than TKO and the odds have it the other way around