Note I said, in the spirit of real fighting. They still have to make it entertaining, if we make it like a real fight, we'd get eye gouges etc which are no fun. And we have to have a fence or ring for practical reasons. I don't get why its that controversial, it's simply using allowing to use the environment to your advantage, like people already do with the fence, they wallwalk when they get taken down, they push off and use to prevent takedowns. But I also understand why they have it.

I think the "no grabbing the shorts" rule can be compared to the "no grabbing the hair" rule.

Do we want to compel all fighters to have the same game theory short haircuts? Either way, there ain't gonna be no hair grabbing.

Do we want to force every fighter to wear super tight spandex shorts?

Couldn't grabbing the fence also be used to aid wall-n-stall and lay-n-pray? Also, I would worry about hand and finger injuries. I keep expecting someone to get a toe ripped off on the fence one of these days.

Well, I'll admit my phrasing isn't that good. I do understand why they are prohibited, it was more akin to ask the question whether they would remove or add entertainment/realism to the fight. But as you say, we'd get the generic version of fighter outfits. Though, I neve said anything about hair pulling, it falls into the same category as eye gouging == simply not fun and can be permanent damage to the fighters. And that is true, we could possibly get even more wall-n-stall. Meh, forget everything I've said , come to realize it would cause more problems than increase entertainment value.

Cung le busted for HGH in Bisping fight.
http://www.ufc.com/news/Zuffa-Statement-on-Cung-Le

Not a shocker

Sorry for trolling into the thread but have to say any one that bets UFC and did not have money on Cerrone after all that we know about him.... ummm just pack the game in altogether.

If you take a known commodity like Carrone and I have to admit to being a bit of a fan of the guy so of course Im bias, but put him in with some one that "maybe better", is all flash etc....

I think Carrone was a solid bet, I asked about it to get a read on what you guys thought but I think it was one of the best bets of the year, the guy I think was a slight underdog I remember looking up his odds and he was even moneys or slight underdog, wtf....

To beat Carrone you have to be a bit more meaningful, physically, you have to be dominate on his arse and also look him up with kickboxing and meet him in that game and beat him, then he would get all out of sorts.

Carrone is not the best fighter in the world but he is a bad arse, properly.. a proper kickboxing cowboy no doubt about that and he deserved quite a few units on him from the mma betters in this thread, from reading I see a good few of you did bet him.

Im not being a smart arse post fight, hindsight being 20 20 and sure I would not be saying sht if he lost, but it made darn good sense to me before the fight that Carrone was a solid play... a lot of you guys know and read that he got back into it because he don't have any money right and he is taking this sht deadly serious.

Taking those punches in the first round was amateur hour although he showed yet again he has a little beard.

I like watching Carrone fight (no ****) if he gets in with a proper dominate strong kick boxer puncher that starts fast with KO power in each hand he is toast thou.

Sorry for the rant just wanted to state I thought Carrone was a superb bet.

lol cause the ufc doctors applying vaseline wrongly

I had money on Cerrone, and think he was definitely the right side... Far from one of the best bets if the year though.

What are peoples thoughts on the two cards this weekend?

So far have an arb hedged towards Rory for 0.4 units. I like Latifi and have seen his opponent in KSW and he's pretty average everywhere, I can't see him troubling Latifi. Thinking of betting Latifi in a parlay with Rockhold at a combined -120 who fights Bisping in November.

Yeah claiming something is an amazing bet of the year without posting that you bet on him before the fight doesn't really mean much (apologies if you did balla shusher just dont remember it)

He was definitely the right side in hindsight but at the end of the day it was a clear 29-28 decision but hardly a completely one sided beatdown

If you see any great spots though definitely post them in the thread

No surprise Le was juicing for the Bisping fight, he sure looked like he was. Makes Bisping's win more impressive but at the end of the day Le is way past his prime.

I'm tempted to take Bisping +350 or w/e vs Rockhold if it's available and it seems like it might be. Rockhold's definitely the favourite but Bisping might be able to outwork him in the championship rounds if he can get through round 1 unscathed

Don't really like any lines this weekend except sort of on Umalatov but I like Pendred and want to cheer for him so probably won't fire it despite liking the line I think

At least this time cheaters didn't beat Bisping.

So far the only bets I have on the Stockholm card are Nelson/Story Under 2½ at +105 because I think Nelson will stop Story with strikes or a sub in the second round most likely. And Backstrom/Wilkinson Under 1½ also at +105 because I think Backstrom will likely stop Wilkinson in the first round.

On the Halifax card I think Tarec Saffiedine has great value at more than +400 against Rory MacDonald.

There you have it folks...the bet of the year was Carrone.

lol

Joking aside best bets so far I think were:

TJ at +750 he dominated every round then got the finish.

Tito fighting Shelmenko using his size for quick 1st round finish at +400

And I still owe you a big beer for that bet next time I come to LV.

I bet Cerrone as he will beat everyone that doesn't have speed and isn't tall.

$100 on Tito at +440 was my best bet of the year so far.

Will Brooks was pretty awesome too at +700 been some decent upsets this year. Made like half my yearly profit on that Bellator PPV.

I actually bet Brooks at +900 which is much higher odds than Tito but I only bet $10 on it as a hedge against his opponent losing so I didn't win as much as my Tito bet.

Yeah but the brooks fight was super close, in all honestly Chandler prob should have got the nod.

TJ at similar odds slaughtered bararo.

Great year for the under-dog

I think TJ was bet of the year that was a fantastic day (TJ, Brooks and Tito and I had all three - a yearsaver for my MMA betting)

On the last card I think Ebersole +213 might have been one of the best bets of the card - I had him at +213 and as we saw a fair handicap for the fight would have been around +100 which is close to where I thought it would be. MM/Cariaso u4.5 at -110ish was excellent as well I think, probably closer to -200. Cerrone looked like a -150 to -200 favourite but I think he closed at -140 or something anyway didn't he?

Rousey over Davis was beyond a lock, although at that price you can't really call it bet of the year but I do think out of 100 fights on that day Rousey probably wins 99 of them and the loss is usually due to a fluke injury or DQ, Davis just didn't really have one-punch KO power which is the only way she really beats Rousey - I guess she gets a sub from the bottom 1 in 100 times or whatever as well so maybe more like 98%

Even though it lost, think Gibson may have been the best bet if that card. He wins that 80% of the time.

I was expecting Gibson to win but didn't want to pay the juice on Gibson so I bet the under 2½ at +190 instead and was glad I did. Manny is one of those guys who sometimes can pull out a sub like that. He has a hell of a squeeze.

Khabilov vs Castillo on the 182 card

Really happy UFC didn't punish Castillo for the close decision loss, they've given him a shot at moving up here.

Holloway MacDonald parlay -263