That is fine as well.

Right, again most people accept that Pinnacle is the sharpest of the major sportsbooks. No one is disputing that.

And regarding opening a thousand accounts with crap books, money is money, i'm a relatively poor sportsbettor compared to guys who build their own models etc and i've made quite a lot of money doing that, sure you win 10k and get banned/limited and have to open new accounts, but it's not like that is peanuts or anything if you can get enough accounts at enough books. Obviously to make the real big money then yes you need to be beating Pinny/cris or the exchanges. Again, no one is disputing any of that. That doesn't mean that it's impossible to do, especially on a smaller sport like MMA.

Hey I got Swoop's PM. I don't read this thread and usually I skim past your guys' debates, so I don't know what the bet is nor do I feel like reading back through this thread. I'll agree to escrow (via Skrill or Neteller USD) and arbitrate as long as the two of you can agree on a short post summarising the terms of the bet, making sure to cover any ambiguities that may arise. Once you've got the terms written down in a way that satisfies both of you, PM me and I'll read through it.

Thanks will let you know if we can agree to terms and have a bet.

If Jim wants to do it we have a bet, if not then we can carry on with the thread.

LETSSSGOOOOOO!!!!!!! ****ing hilarious!!!!!

LETS GOOO SWOOOOP AND JIMMMMM!!!!!!

LETS GET THESE DONKSSSS!!!!

F him up Jim!!!

The thing is you offer literally no guidance, advice or opinion on an event or probably outcome , just 'lol u fink training at altitude is a faktor'

I'd really like for people to support each other but for some reason there is imo even more pathetic ego trippers here than there are at the poker tables.

All your posts where a level/troll. I guess if you lack critical thinking skills it becomes less apparent!

I am starting to wonder if even you did not realise you were indeed trolling.

You guys went down a deep rabbit hole with this contest. A lot of the rules seem rather arbitrary and disadvantageous. So hopefully no one is disappointed but I'm just going to keep playing as I have been.

You have vastly overestimated my worth.

They are to prevent you from angle shooting me. It is trivial to post a winning record, which is why we're trying to synthesize whether you have any actual ability to handicap and win. If you could point out which terms seem arbitrary I'd be happy to explain.

You are free to place your own bets. The bets you'd place on Pinnacle would be for token stakes purely for tracking. (I will compensate you for whatever losses a min bet stake would entail.)

I assume he meant it's unnecessary effort on his part for a time consuming prop bet that he has no financial stake in and restrictive that it's pinnacle only when most of his actual bets are on other books and he often takes early lines.

I guess it'd take him atleast 5- 10min to look at his lines, compare it to the current ones and then bet the 5 best and post them.

But what do I know. I don't randomly speculate on a bunch of inane stuff.

Lol Thremp don't be butt hurt, good effort but the peeps here are just having fun and nobody wants to embark on a trolling war with you You are a really cool guy bro but when you obsess on a poster you really go all out.

I'm the first one that hates every time you get banned but you do it to yourself.

Everyone in this thread is having too much fun to pay attention to you, the real question is: Can you handle that? My bet is no, you have a history of going off the deep end when people ignore you. I hope you don't, I like you as a poster and people in the SB section seem to have learned from you so it would be too bad for the forum.

I can only speak for myself but MMA betting for me is just for fun. To sweat the matches, it just makes it so much more interesting. I also travel a lot so a lot of times on a Saturday night I'm stuck at a hotel somewhere and would rather be posting itt and having fun w the crew with a couple of hundred bucks on the line. No biggie if I lose my $ . Just to give you an example last week I bet on that asian guy because Balla said chinese people are hard working and have good work ethics or something like that, another poster followed us and we all made some $ lol

You see, it's just fun bro. Some people like to do credit card roulette at Carnevino for fun, others hookers and blow You get my meaning.

Amongst other silly betting practices a few years back we went on a roll with rsigley betting on darkest fighter because Wesley Snipes said " Always bet on black".

Anyways, you get my meaning bro. Good luck in 2017, make that maney

I just wanted some free money. Don't see the harm in having someone give me cash without me having to do any real work.

So basically I was trying to "make that maney". Sadly Jimm doesn't think his handicapping can overcome 102% overround in a really soft market. Its k. I guess I'll stick to always betting black.

Why don't you both submit screen shot time stamped of each bet at time of placing and send to 3rd party who can then post all bets before the start of each event?

So you can't post anything out? ok

Again you are talking about things that are irrelevant

That altitude post was just an example lol

It seems most my posts go way over people's heads when I'm trying my hardest to simplify everything

The things I'm trying to help with isn't even something that's advanced but legitimate basic ****

Like betting your good hands , folding your **** ones

very basic

The problem is lvr you have presented such a demeaning and undermining input that it is hard for people to fathom if you are genuine or troll.
Anybody can point out a problem, but not everyone can propose a solution.

Why not try this approach next time?

"Hey Diaz, I think you are over estimating that particular factor in your last post, I think a more suitable position for wagering on this fight would be 'x' because of 'y'"

west,

I just did that pointing out hypoxic training and was openly ridiculed by Jimm.

Why do you think he just kept insisting that he was right?

I understand that Mikhel, and it IS a valid factor to consider but, you didn't then consider the variables yourself and post a pick based on your findings and I think that was the issue.

We get it, your a winning sports bettor, but instead of hammering other people's analysis how about offering constructive criticism and an example of how you would analyse the information available to you in order to make a pick for the same fight?
And I mean that genuinely, I'm not a pro sports bettor, I have much to learn and a desire to do so, that's why I come here, to try and pick up any theory or approach that I can apply myself.

The way you guys talk people would think every fight has an opening line of 1.95 1.95

west,

I'm saying that you don't know if someone is altitude acclimated based on where/who they're training with, since hypoxic training is well understood and has been utilized for years. So the person could be utilizing a variety of methodologies despite being at sea level.

Why does explaining that require me to post a pick? I literally did what you just suggested and received lots of ill will. Is it because I poopoo'd someone's dumb ass "insight" (which apparently is worthless by fight day?)

I told you before you had a reading comprehension and it shows here yet again.

For you one more time!

ALL YOUR POSTS!!!!

ALL ALL ALL OF THEM

Do you get it???

You ask me to point them out. I did I stated ALL of them!!