what is it with internet poster sports bettors being so insanely hostile towards other people that are not on the same level of success as they are? i'm friends with dudes who have more money than god all from sports and horses, i'm less than a worm compared to them, but we just hang out like normal people instead of psychotically trying to diminish each other or manufacture scandals or whatever it is that's going on here. it seems to happen a lot on twitter too.

Do you mean like Hbob's completely fabricated backstory?

Do you mean how Poogs claims to be the prop king of the Eastern Seaboard while unable to beat $50 openers or even compute the fair lines? (The former isn't shocking when we realize the latter problem exists.)

Aside from the fact that he's tried to steal from people.

People do the same thing to RAS. They front run their clients and got scammed, since they're kinda morons. But they're not even really winners anymore, so not sure that even matters.

Not sure if this is the right spot, but be mindful of of the cloudflare bug.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/new...bsites-1663185


Its unclear exactly what sites were impacted, but the list is likely to be quite large. Random dude online has taken a stab at compiling the list of potentially impacted sites here:

https://github.com/pirate/sites-usin..._unique_cf.txt (view raw => download)


I scanned for some well known books and the only one I found was nitrogen, but I think the general idea of changing to new passwords for anything important is a good idea.

I'm shocked that Hbob's known thief book is there.

i don't know hbobs backstory or anything about poogs. i don't understand what RAS has to do with anything either.

your post is actually a pretty good example of what i meant, i guess that was intentional.

Pretty much. I mean.. If you went into business with a convicted bank robber, would you have appreciated someone telling you that they were an ex-con?

i guess but i think that's something i would have found out on my own before someone ran up to me out of nowhere and said "hey man that dude robbed a bank."

i guess what i'm trying to say is that i don't understand why everyone feels like throwing dirt at everyone else. i don't even have dirt to throw except against people that have personally scammed me, why anyone would try to get involved in a matter between two strangers is beyond me, dealing with the weasels i have to deal with regularly is enough stress for me.

and in all things of this nature, i'm sure the truth of the matter (whatever that even is) lies somewhere between him trying to steal and someone being ******ed and misunderstanding an agreement. not exactly the same as robbing a bank. but like i said, i don't know you people from adam so whatever.

You sound like a nihilist who hates other people, which is fine. I love people. Wanna help.

This is wrong by the way. Just because there are two sides to every story doesn't mean the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

that's a pretty weird conclusion to draw about someone you don't know but alright i guess.

yes obviously this is true in many cases but you understand what i'm saying, right?

I dunno, as far as I can tell you're making a lazy postmodernist claim that there are no truths, only interpretations -- thereby enabling con artists, thieves, and other lowlifes to carry on with the fail-safe excuse of "disagreements" or "misunderstandings" instead of "scamming".

you guys nailed it, i'm a lazy post-modern nihilist.

are you doing this as some sort of funny way parodying my belief that lots of people in sports betting are bizarrely hostile towards others, or is this sincere disdain on your part?

Serious question: If Poogs is as crooked and a possible scammer as it is being said.

Shouldn't the mods and the horde have already ran him from this board?

I've seen him take plenty of abuse from the millionaire club but I always thought it was just pure fanboyism (or maybe he was a sucker for punishment) that kept him around.

God this place is a cess pool. Ive already gotten a few offers for accounts thought which is all I care about.

Ive never stolen or scammed anyone and ill pay either of you miserable cretins a million dollars if you can prove otherwise. Again, I want to be clear about this since youre calling me a thief. Lets make a bet. Prove I stole money from someone, my 10k to your 10k. If you cant prove it then you lose. This is the 3rd time Ive made this offer and you never accept yet you still tarnish my name.

I slow paid one guy a bunch of years ago. I was honest about it, it was bad, I admitted it was bad about 1000 times. I dont know what else I can do about it. Ive had quite literally thousands of successful transactions with people on here and if anyone whos interested in account sharing needs to, I could provide plenty of reputable references.

Why you two have such a bug up your ass about me is bizarre and creepy and borders on stalking. I think thremp in particular is mentally ill. There are dozens of regular posters around here who have the same story as me...being followed around on here and tortured by him. Ive never gone to a mod about it even though now that youre falsely dragging my reputation through the mud and slandering me no one would blame me for doing so. What he gets out of it is beyond me.

I never claimed to be a mensa candidate. If I dont know the answer to something, I find someone who does and ask them. Ive managed to make a good living betting on sports despite my clear and severe lack of intellect though so whatever.

Thremp I think youre a really sad and lonely person. I feel bad for you. No one who is happy would act like this. Please leave me alone or just die or something.

Careful Poogs. Unless they are looking to scam you, why would anyone pick you to get accounts for versus anyone else here that needs them.

This is pretty much what made me stop posting here outside of the MMA thread for the most part, Thremp would find a way to derail every thread I posted in with accusations of me being a 'scammer' (and a bunch of other made up claims) because I inaccurately tracked a betting record once in a long dead esports thread when I was a completely recreational sports bettor not knowing that you can't adjust a record being tracked at 1u per bet to your average price if you add on additional units later fading steam (I obviously know it was a mistake in hindsight, but literally didn't benefit from it in any way and happily I disavowed the record). He repeatedly brought up that I 'solicit money for gambling' (aka I have occasionally sold action to poker tournaments on 2p2 with no issues arising ever from that) as if it makes me a scammer when every investor has always been paid in full and quickly with no issue and implied that I have made sort of attempt to scam people by 'record inflation' when at no point have I asked anyone for money for anything sports betting related or encouraged anyone to tail my bets and completed agreed that the record in question was inaccurate in hindsight, I literally post here for entertainment value and that's all. Mods literally ordered him to stop posting false accusations about me

I'm only making this post because he's doing a similar thing to Poogs now and it bothers me even though I have had no significant interactions with Poogs and never met him etc. as far as I can tell he's one of the posters who adds value to the forum by making posts that are interesting to read sometimes.

If Poogs and I stopped posting, he would find someone else to do it to, because he 'needs' to have someone to abuse on this forum regardless of whether there is any validity to his claims or not.

Thremp followed me on Twitter a couple years back just to PM me abusive messages and I agree with Poogs suggestion that his behaviour is bizarre and if he isn't mentally ill then it's incredibly pathetic especially if he is as successful in sports betting and in life as he claims.

Also lol @ the video

Thremp take the bet and prove Poogs is a scammer, or retract your claims. If you don't then a mod should ban you for making false and slanderous accusations here AGAIN after you were warned about doing that towards me by the mods a couple months back.

Ben,

Glad to know you still care.

Swoop,

You repeatedly lie and stalk me now which is weird since you asked the moderation for me not to interact with you. You basically **** on other people and expect everyone to follow you own bizarre ruleset.

Also, my views were not slanderous they were factually accurate. You were either incredibly stupid or willful (as an expert that is literally the only view that one can hold) and you do use this site to solicit money. How do you possibly think explaining it can make you less culpable?

I have said many times in many different threads where you have brought it up that I was ignorant about how records were normally tracked in an esports thread. Yes, I was very inexperienced at sports betting then. The record was never going to reflect actual winnings in the first place as my actual bets vary in size (5u here, 2u there etc) and I was tracking the average price as if I had bet a single unit which is something I stated I would do in the thread, which yes, I agree is not the way it should be done, but is also something I was perfectly open about in the thread. I did profit betting on Starcraft 2 regardless, and i'm happy to put up whatever to your whatever and we can have a third party look at my Pinnacle SC2 betting account history if you want. No, beating a niche market with $200 limits or whatever at the time is not super impressive, I am aware of that and I have since moved on to bigger and better things. No, I am not a sports betting millionaire although I am profitable picking off soft lines chasing steam, and i'm happy with that. I am happy for the success of those who are more successful at sports betting than me, good for them. As far as I know you've literally never posted any proof that you are as rich and successful as you claim from sports betting, but I don't follow you around demanding that you do so, because that would be weird, anti-social behavior even for a forum on the internet and it's entirely irrelevant as I am not disputing that you clearly know what you're talking about for the most part with regards to sports betting specifically, although it is also true that for the most part you mock and belittle people who are less experienced sports bettors and tell them they are wrong without providing an answer to their questions. This is rude and anti-social behaviour and you have been banned from this forum multiple times for trolling/abusing other posters which again is a verifiable fact.

Additionally, I'm not stalking you here, i'm defending Poogs (who isn't even a friend of mine, I have never interacted with him outside of the sports betting forum) who you have attacked unjustly and demonstrating a pattern of you making false and slanderous claims about people. He's offered 10k to you if you can prove that he stole from anyone. He's open about the fact that he slow paid someone once and people can draw their own conclusions from that information and either do business with him or not do business with him accordingly. I would have made a similar post defending anyone else in his position if someone was making unfounded accusations against them and not taking up an offer to get a free 10k to prove those accusations are true. You claimed that he tried to steal from people. Your friend Iowa claimed Poogs has a lengthy history (implying more than one instance) of scamming. Prove it's true, or retract your false accusation.

Is Pinnacle not doing Oscar odds anymore? Don't see it on the site.

What US-facing books are the best right now for Americans? Guessing Bovada & 5dimes, but not sure beyond that. Not a fan of the Jazette family.

Thremp the nut low as always.

waiting for either of you two autistic andys to pick 10 grand up off the floor. I know youre not THAT rich

It was there earlier in the week I think, not sure why it's down now maybe try emailing their support, a quick google search comes up with a 'bet on the 2017 oscars with pinnacle' article so the lines should be there

Thremp, where's your 10k or apology to Poogs

Poogs,

Both Thremp and the post I quoted said "tried to steal", not "stole". Do you see the difference? Don't you think that's a fair characterization of your actions described in this thread? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40...mount-1205332/

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bye guys!

the forum is going to miss high level analysis like this.

damn, we ****ed up.