posting that pic is stupid not because it results in a ban but because it elevates henry to something meaningful in this forum which he is not.

anyway if i'm gonna get banned i'd rather it be for something fun like lemonparty

"They have deadly weapons with which to inflict pain on the human body. They know how to bring about horrible deaths. They have clubs with which to beat the body and the head. They have bullets and guns with which to tear holes in the flesh, to smash bones, to disable and kill. They use force, to make you do what the deciders have decided you must do. They will use all that is neccessary to bring you to your knees."
- Eldridge Cleaver

Sums up Microbob perfectly

Green - Others seemed to agree with my judgment there since it was other posters who pointed out your name-calling to me.

I also did not give you an infraction and I believe simply requested that you tone it down. Which seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm not trying to be a dictator here and I'm not just running around giving infractions or deleting posts solely based on my own opinion on the matter.

Other posters IN THIS COMMUNITY are interested in these changes too. That's part of the issue that some of the community still don't seem to understand. The actions I have taken that some members thought were LOL-bad were actions that others were wondering why it took me so long to take.

Microbob how would you feel if someone who knew nothing about Minor League Hockey started moderating what you did, said ridiculous things that made him look totally ignorant but he passed it off as fact to appear knowledgeable and after 6 months of doing it only got worse not better?

If that happened then maybe you would understand how we feel.

rsig - What you seem to fail to realize is that I am the mod who is advocating for you to not be permabanned while other mods believe your account should have been nuked awhile ago for whatever disruptions. You're welcome!!

I don't care about that all you have to do is just switch VPN from one box to another then magically can post again. Just wanted to point out why no one respects you.

rsig - "we?"

"no one respects me?"

Okay, whatever.

Go ahead and post whatever corrections or contribute positively to the forum that you like. Stop whining about me and make posts that actually move the discussions in a helpful direction. Didn't you say you were leaving? Haven't I given you a reasonable amount of slack?

I mean, if this place really needs a new mod then I'll step aside. But other posters seem to think I'm reasonably okay. And we simply do not have anyone else available to help out in here to my knowledge.

If you want to personally notify me every time you think a thread or post should be opened, closed, locked, whatever then tell me and I will very strongly consider your opinion and take that action.

I would be willing to even let a knowledgeable poster make all the decisions in here and I will simply follow-through on their actions and just carry out their wishes. I've been pretty much begging the community to offer their insight and help me in that way anyway.

So if you just want to have an individual do that then that's fine too. I can carry it out as they deem appropriate.

But for you personally, all you have to do is tell me what to do. Offer your insight. And stop making me play, "guess what rsig would do?"

I asked for help from the community on a couple of those threads for example. We have conflicting views on them and a 50/50 split so far. And your opinion is?!?!?!

Get interested in actually helping already. If you have a different mod in mind who you think would be better suited to take charge here or even help out then GO AHEAD AND TELL ME.

Asking me to "step aside" without any kind of answer beyond, "well..someone else" isn't really going to work, is it?

Rsigley for mod!

oh i never said step aside i'm just pointing out why people aren't worshiping you because it is obvious you know nothing about sports betting. you are like down there with greensmoke85 and jdock99 and i'm guessing that must hurt because why else would you become a mod except to have power and internet worship? except you are trying to talk about things you have no idea about so people see right through it

your ignorance on sports betting makes all your choices look suspect. i mean you tell people to read the FAQ and you prolly understand 0% of it then you try to troll people, act superior and insult them makes no sense.

if you're not gonna learn or contribute anything useful why bother posting? oh and i'm never sports betting full time again since i don't have to but i can still read about it.

I've participated in minor league hockey forums and discussions before. When a mod there makes a mistake that I find kind of laughable or incorrect I simply lend my expertise to the matter and then they thank me for the correction or elaboration, etc.

They started the forum and moderate but they realize I'm the one in the trenches who knows his stuff. I see a mistake in knowledge that is a somewhat common perception and simply go ahead and jump in and let them know. Politely. And with an awareness that they mean well and are not trying to harm anything.

I certainly don't take it personally or am bothered by it. And neither are they.

I also don't respond by telling them that they must be a total idiot for not having figured that out for themselves since it's right in front of them and/or relatively easy to learn if they cared to do the research.

rsig - Okay, thought you were also advocating for my removal. Kind of easy to get that impression, right? Regardless, kind of responding to a couple complaints/observations at once I guess.

As far as I can tell, you think a lot of other members in this community have a ton of ignorance on sports betting too. Seems like a fairly small minority that you believe do not.

And I will also assume you are not really interested in sharing your ideas on posts and threads to take action.

Even if you aren't betting sports ever again I hope you will consider being a helpful member of the community around here.

Anyway, is a clean slate possible with you here? Feels like we're just going back and forth on the same fairly tired points and aren't necessarily going to get much farther on this. I will consider your observations of me and my participation.



I have never claimed to be knowledgeable on this stuff. Ever. So there is nothing to "see through." I'm as up front as I can be about all of that.

I don't expect my voice on sports-betting matters to carry any weight at all and I don't want it to. I'm a beginner who fully admits to being a beginner and is interested in learning so I really don't understand what the heck you are talking about there.

multi-quote bomb incoming...

that was the thing.

4/10 imo.

wait...wat.

they got permanently banned? r u srs? for posting a picture? (i assume?)

that's just completely ****ed up. temp, sure. go ahead. but a) if it WAS the pic, henry got you guys wrapped like THAT? or b) if it wasn't, why were they perma'd? i like to **** around every now and again, but i don't wanna push the perma button...

dude...calm. calm doesn't need perma'd.

i don't know what he did, but if i can guess, i'd guess he doesn't need perma'd.

right? wtf is going on?

i'm gonna kinda combine the above two posts...you gave me a (joke) infraction for saying 'lolhockey', which (and here's where we're gonna combine the two above statements) i assume you did to fit into the 'community' here.

bob, i like you. we've had pm interactions and i read most of what you write here. that said...well, rsig can tell it below:

see? i'm in no way on these guys' level. at all. you were threw this job as a joke, and have handled it about as well as a poster not familiar with this forum could have.

that said, wtf is going on lately? in this thread (today) and overall?

i appreciate you asking for opinions and whatnot on closing threads, banning posters, etc. but if you're saying that your own biases don't come into play around here, that's .

for sure...though that has a reeeally high chance of going bad too. lol

lastly, why did calm get perma'd?

+1

Perma ban seems stiff in this instance since the incident that led to posting that pic becoming a "permabanable" offense occurred over the holidays, and maybe Kaboshedx and Clam missed it because they were spending time with their families and not reading 2+2.

rsigley,

seems like youre enjoying paradise to the fullest.

micro,

the group here is impossible to please. you`re doing a reasonable job its just a group of "angry bitter people"

i'd leave if I were you. no ones going to cut you any slack. they enjoy the drama/being difficult.

lol kinda glad that dude banned himself... but after reading all this was wondering why SBers r so angry and bitter?

is it the screen tan?
or do u think something to do with the subversive nature of SB and hating any authority. (i'm in that 1)
stress?
the competitive nature of SB?


i get that i'm horribly generalising, but it is interesting that AFAIK every mod gets a hard time, yet no 1 wants to join the dark side and actually be a mod...

even Perf wasn't perfect, remember?

i sort of think that somewhere, as a group, we also have to look a little at ourselves and wonder why we get so pissed at such trivial things.

meh, carry on...

but they totally do, you understand.

you're a moderator on a sportsbetting forum where there are at least a dozen 1% type posters. when you say, post a positive review of a stealing/thief book, that carries a lot of weight with people that may only be occasional posters.

hell, i'm here every day and i didn't know posting frostytips.jpg was a perma nowadays.

is it really? just in SB, or everywhere? jesus

wiper - It was clearly explained that posting that pic anymore is a permaban because I was sick of dealing with it over and over and over...and there are more mature and productive ways of expressing your opinion without intentionally wasting my time and making me have to do stuff.




For now, I am going to assume their actions were their way of asking to be permabanned and that they knew what they were doing. I did explain it pretty clearly after all. But yes, your scenario isn't impossible. They saw it earlier and thought it was funny...but weren't aware of my post later on when it popped up again.

If they truly were not aware of that previous incident over the holidays and were just posting it without understanding the repercussions then they can contact me or Mat or whoever and ask to be reinstated.

Not a big deal. Apologize for wasting my time and basically saying, "ban me" and I'm perfectly willing to move on and hope they are too. Calm's well had some decent amount of life to it for a little while so I was pretty disappointed that he chose that stupid route to basically accomplish nothing.

In the very least, I hope you understand why I took such actions and felt it necessary to make that rule. It takes times to run around deleting crap. I have better things to do and, honestly, you should too. Purposefully wasting my time because you don't like me or something I did in the forum is not helpful or productive.

this too.

it gets a bit confusing sometimes whether or not you want to be involved and liked or just 'the mod', but i'd agree with the above for the most part.

I'm pretty sure a few of the longtime posters don't know posting certain pics would get a permaban, esp for someone who isn't even of SB. They'd have to have read virtually all of MicroBob's posts to know that, which most of us don't do. Obvs now they know.

Aside from that, you're doing a good and thankless job MB.


grunch: what wiper said.

i'm sorry it is too much to ask to have a mod know even 1% about sports betting and basic math

clearly asking too much

No it doesn't (it wasn't a review...it was one reference in the middle of a sentence). Because everyone knows it is wrong and it is immediately corrected. No harm. No problem. Nothing happened. I think after you have referenced that issue 10x you could move on by now.

But thanks for completely disagreeing with rsig on how much weight and respect my posts carry.

bob, i don't really know the other guy, but for calm, could you just make it ___ days?

the first time someone posts that pic shouldn't ever be perma. like, horse pr0n gifs should basically the only perma for an established account.

Yup. I understand that. So thankfully I have given a fairly easy ability here for them to get back in, right?

Wiper - No, it's not going to be for ___ days. I stated it pretty clearly and my hunch is that he saw that. If he didn't know what he was really doing in that spot then he can appeal to Mat. Simple.



Green, wiper, naj - Thanks for the compliments.