way off on odds though. getting 3/10 instead of 1/5 does get you an extra 10% so thats something i guess, haha

Would like a do over please. P6 with Dort. Ring W. SB pays 95k and 500
I was too busy losing at GS and Tam. Couldn't be bothered with an opportunity like that.

LOL...I agree. Big Brown's son was just a monster physically and performance. Building my PK6 i was thought a bounce possible after 2 flat out all heart performances but he just bounced around there and you could see the difference in him and every other horse on the track outside PP and he was a distant 2nd in physicality and performance. BB has AP also....shewww weeee doggy! Gonna get weird 1st Sat in May in a cool way i think.

I do not think Mike Smith had one of his better riding Saturday's but with SB all he had to do was hold on as SB was just so professional and imo the BCC 15 winner if healthy.

#8564 looks like young sires this year. yes I wrote this one month ago. its coming true and to me will be another call I make. guess its not to hard to see but baffert will have 2 pletcher will have 2 ramsey has 1 the rest just fill out the field. (look out for dallas stewert to get 3x 2nd place )lol young sires. big brown pioneer of the nile blame super saver tapit( longest chance) so im saying American pharaoh, Dortmund, carpi diem , upstart or far from over will win this years derby

Far From Over showed some knack. AQ inner, but was promising.

HANA's free online magazine, Horseplayer Monthly (March edition) is now out. Lots of great handicapping info http://horseplayersassociation.org/march15issue.pdf

Year to date. Hows everyone else doing?

Wagered 1/2 as much and loss 6x your amount BUT i have tourney losses too and it is still early in the year yet

HPB as always thanks for the add each month with the newsletter very appreciated.

Santa Anita 3/13/15

1.) 1-7-2
2.) 3-4-2
3.) 8-3-5
4.) 1-8-2
5.) 1-3-6
6.) 5-6-8
7.) 5-7-2
8.) 7-1-8

Nice card today at the great race place.

Now i may be down now pdiggz and i give myself chit alot but i have been going at this game since 07 now and not had a losing year and do not plan on starting this year Still early and a ton of much better spots coming up

Yesterday at SA give me the #4 horse....which race a-hole?...Every race! If i remember right the #4 won 6/8 races yesterday but i just caught replays but think that is right.

I'm a newb when it comes to horse betting and would like to learn. I was curious, do you box these as trifectas? Or just play them straight?

honcho - if you win every year and/or are lifetime winner you are 1 of the few. thumbs up on that. game is next to impossible to win at with current rake structure. if you add in rebates/rewards thats another story but winner from the game itself not many can say that.

Those numbers represent win wagers. Established as being hiz A,B,C choice in each race. They are commonly used in a chosen combination for multi race wagers such as pick 3-4-5 or 6's. How many of them you use is based on base wager $ amount and over how many races to arrive at a total wager Cost. You could also cherry pick for exacta tri etc.
He is sharing what represents time consuming work and insight.
search predictem it will give you insight into calculating such wagers.
Hope that helps good luck.

This is correct and thanks prickly.

You hit it on the head as to why pdiggz if you do not get rebates from a book or bigger shop you are missing out on $$. I use different outlets for different types of bets. One spot i get a better percentage with my W wagers,a book i can get 10% added to PK4's 3's etc... I am not affraid to pull the trigger on larger W wagers but that is not my game. I am always looking to bet small and win big and i like the challenge to it. Nothing i like more and i did it several times this year at CHD with .50 PK3's. Hit several i played for no more than $6 that hit for more than $100. I was capping well there and more important betting well also. Most important thing pdiggz why i have had a positive roi is early on i got it through my dumbazz head after beating it into the same wall to take a pass or hit the all and if i can not get past 1 race without needing the all it is time to pass. They WILL run again the next day or very soon.

I give my top 3 because it is just how i started doing it back it the start of the thread when i was learning the game. Saw all the so called talent give their top 3 for each race so i just started doing it that way myself. On my plays i may use more or single depending on what value i place on a horse in that race but those are the 3 i believe have the best shot.

As prick mentions in this sport you have to be a sick sob to want to work this hard to make little or no $$ at times,but i am smitten with it and wake up with the same enthusiasm to cap and get after it each day.

Also if you remember early in the year i had some tourney wins and hit some decent PK4's i remember the one at Remington for over 4K on a $12 ticket...First i capped there and thought the track was in New Mexico LOL...Dumb luck plays a part in my roi...Just got to be honest with yourself and your game and a groove can be found.

Almost forgot...Got the EJXD2 board game because i already had the bobble head and the fat heads on the wall but it is just a square board and a $2 token and your chasing Indy Go Shiner offspring...either i am playing it wrong or i got ripped off

is untapable probably going to win sure but 1/9? i dont know i liked SB a lot more even with a huge field and the track at OP isnt fast.

Match race Shared Belief-Am Pharoah
Best of three.
Once in the morning then let em break for lunch before the last two.

SB lays right on AP's right shoulder and blows by for the win for fun....Believe i heard SB say as he passed "win something bigger 1st son then look me up" said AP's rider

It was all over when they left the gate even after not the best break for AP yesterday and to know he did it with a turned shoe is just silly...Thanks to BB being himself which is an a-hole (but my kind of a-hole) i have to decide between Dortmund who has everything you look for in a horse and things that cant be measured outright like the heart this horse has and the refuse to lose spirit...Then AP the freak and if you let him to the front uncontested it might just be all over at the break,its what i said yesterday when he hit the front...Easy game...easy answers LOL...Also FFO has my eye as well and going in the Wood i believe and we will see how much green is left to him or did he fill out and get his mind right...Like i said going to get weird in a real cool way real soon.

SB will come up to ask AP.
So what's it like out of cali? It rains but I float.
What's the derby trail like? Pays great and it's easy
oh by the way that dude Tonalist invited you for a mile and a half at a some place named Belmont. I'll be there later this year. See you at Keeneland down the road yo.

Good stuff prickly...No doubt Tonalist a sob @ big sandy

Can somebody itt do me a favor and list best horse books for bonuses. I wanna try to bonus whore for KD. Seems like free money when they offer promos such as bet $100, get 100 free as long as you wager x amount.

Also anyone see American pharaoh this weekend? Is it just me or does he look insanely good. This and a prior gr 1 race, he hasn't even been whipped and just hand ridden to an easy victory (while pulling away from field). Only worry I have for him is distance and possibly the pace. A lot of his races have been slow paces without a contested battle for the lead early on (I'm sure the KD will be much tougher to just lead easily early on).

KD? Yeah Kentucky Downs seems like kinda of a cool track. I had I'm Already Sexy there, nice filly.
Don't know of one bonus being so way better than the other. Youll get it after a bit of play so win for a while the you'll get that bonus in time for the derby.

You had? My PM box is open if i am reading this right and hope i am and great to have your insight for sure. Great inspiration behind the horse and I AM an example of horses helping defeat such things and the disease has such cowardice to it it goes after the young folk.

Going to play tourneys this week try an Q in to TS for the weekend tourney and then i believe there is an Xpressbet $20 W tourney that looks like if your right it could pay silly. Best of luck to all itt and their plays this week.

gonna be a good one in the spiral stakes this weekend. is it goona be todd pletcher and a winstar farm horse, or is it goona be a west coast horse? also did any of u see the grey Kentuckian (3 yr old) for stonestreet and a partner run at goldengate last week. a beast. maybe to late for derby unless hes in the santa anita. Also a horse named Om I believe who last raced at del mar but gave American pharaoh his first loss. he returns soon also, keep the eyes open

Also with toast of new York out of Dubai cup it looks like its gonna be chrome and African story. I think prince bishop should run the grass race. also I wouldn't put the win on main sequence out there. different distance plus facing some that have beat him prior. oh yeah did u see draden van dyke win for gramh motion again on grass in the stakes race. I believe that since nov FLAXMAN RACING at santa anita is like 3/4 maybe 3/5 with a ROI of like $20.00 there grass horses kill it so don't let one sneak by at any odds next time

They should stop calling it the morning line at Gulfstream.
Just call it the Castellano.
An 8/1 shot tomm? Must be a mistake.

RIP Chief...Horse racing's loss is heavens gain....Let's take it to the day today and compete hard. Best of luck to all itt on their plays today.