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05-29-2016 , 03:24 PM
Hi guys,

Didn't want to make a new thread about this but wasn't sure where to put it, As I have been generally doing this with football it seems best to go here.

So I've been doing the match betting system had some decent profit so far, but I ran in a situation today and I'm not sure what to do about it.

So I made a bet that made me +£20 odd profit, the thing is I the guy I backed on the bookie's website won and not the exchange site.

So as I won on the bookie's site and used a bonus I now have to clear the rollover amount at odds of 1.8 or greater. So yeah I'm not sure what to do... do I just place another bet and hope the exchange site wins and net a loss on the bets for the site? not sure what else I can do tbh.

Any advice thanks in advance
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06-06-2016 , 05:02 PM
All in Argentina vs Chile today.
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06-06-2016 , 07:00 PM
ODDS TO WIN EURO 2016

From Bovada.lv

France +300
Germany +400
Spain +500
England +800
Belgium +900
Italy +1600
Portugal +1600
Croatia +2500
Austria +3300
Poland +4000
Switzerland +5000
Wales +6600
Russia +6600
Turkey +8000
Ukraine +8000
Iceland +10000
Czech Rep +10000
Sweeden +10000
Slovakia +10000
Rep Of Ireland +15000
Romania +20000
Hungary +25000
N. Ireland +25000
Albania +25000

Any dark horse contenders you guys see maybe giving the top 3 a scare?
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06-06-2016 , 07:25 PM
GOLDEN BOOT WINNER FOR EURO 2016 (Top Tourney Goal scorer)

This is an interesting prop. Any value plays?

Thomas Muller (GER) +700
Cristiano Ronaldo (POR) +800
Antoine Griezmann (FRA) +900
Oliver Giroud (FRA) +1400
Robert Lewandowski (POL) +1400
Harry Kane (ENG) +1400
Romelu Lukaku (BEL) +2000
Anthony Martial (FRA) +2000
Alvaro Marato (SPA) +2000
Zlatan Ibrahimavic (SWE) +2500
Mario Gomez (GER) +2500
Mario Mandzukic (CRO) +2800
Jamie Vardy (ENG) +3300
Mario Goetze (GER) +3300
Andre Pierre-Gignac (FRA) +3300
Aritz Aduriz (SPA) +3300
Eden Hazard (BEL) +3300
Graziano Pelle (ITA) +3300
Wayne Rooney (ENG) +3300
Kevin De Bruyne (BEL) +3300
Gareth Bale (WAL) +4000
Marc Janko (AUS) +4000
Daniel Sturridge (ENG) +5000
Dimitri Payet (FRA) +5000
Artyom Dzyuba (RUS) +5500
Nikola Kalinic (CRO) +6600
Christian Benteke (BEL) +8000
Andre Schurrle (GER) +8000
David Silva (SPA) +8000
Andriy Yarmolenko (UKR) +8000
Pedro (SPA) +10000
Eder Citadin Martins (ITA) +10000
Aleksander Korkorin (RUS) +10000
Burak Yilmaz (TUR) +10000
Xherdan Shaqiri (SWI) +10000
Arda Turan (TUR) +10000
Haris Seferovic (SWI) +10000
Marko Arnautovic (AUT) +10000
Paul Pogba (FRA) +10000
Arkadiusz Milik (POL) +10000
Ivan Rikitic (CRO) +10000
Marek Hamsik (SVK) +12500
Aaron Ramsey (WAL) +15000
Borek Dockal (CZE) +15000
David Alaba (AUT) +15000
Gylfi Sigurdsson (ICE) +15000
Ivan Perisic (CRO) +15000
Kamil Grosicki (POL) +15000
Kolbeinn Sigthorrson (ICE) +15000
Maroaune Fellani (BEL) +15000
Jonathon Walters (IRE) +20000
Luka Modric (CRO) +20000
Hal Robson-Kanu (WAL) +25000
Kyle Lafferty (NIR) +25000
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06-06-2016 , 08:07 PM
ODDS TO WIN GROUP

GROUP A

France -375
Switzerland +350
Romania +1200
Albania +3300

France has got this group on lock, right?

GROUP B

England -140
Russia +325
Wales +600
Slovakia +900

England seems a bit shaky to me; any merits in considering Russia or Wales to upset?

GROUP C

Germany -300
Poland +400
Ukraine +650
N. Ireland +3300

Could complacency set in for the Germans after winning the Cup 2 years ago? Or are they simply too superior to falter in Group C?

GROUP D

Spain -175
Croatia +300
Czech Rep. +900
Turkey +900

La Roja gonna roll?

GROUP E

Belgium -105
Italy +160
Sweden +650
Ireland +1100

Can Italy or Sweden possibly give Belgium a run for their money?

GROUP F

Portugal -130
Austria +180
Iceland +700
Hungary +1400

Kinda like Austria here....
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06-07-2016 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOwnage
ODDS TO WIN GROUP

GROUP A

France -375
Switzerland +350
Romania +1200
Albania +3300

France has got this group on lock, right?

GROUP B

England -140
Russia +325
Wales +600
Slovakia +900

England seems a bit shaky to me; any merits in considering Russia or Wales to upset?

GROUP C

Germany -300
Poland +400
Ukraine +650
N. Ireland +3300

Could complacency set in for the Germans after winning the Cup 2 years ago? Or are they simply too superior to falter in Group C?

GROUP D

Spain -175
Croatia +300
Czech Rep. +900
Turkey +900

La Roja gonna roll?

GROUP E

Belgium -105
Italy +160
Sweden +650
Ireland +1100

Can Italy or Sweden possibly give Belgium a run for their money?

GROUP F

Portugal -130
Austria +180
Iceland +700
Hungary +1400

Kinda like Austria here....
Austria looked really strong in qualifying.

France and Germany look like locks to win groups. Also I like Belgium to win Group E after Italy under-perform without Pirlo. perhaps Croatia to win their group - overall think Croatia have a lot of potential to do well (semis +) if they can beat Spain to top their group. They'd swerve the Germans/France and Spain, and face softer side of draw

Have Mandzukic and Kane as outsider top scorer punts, and Ronaldo-Ibra-Mandzukic to be top scorer for Portugal, Sweden and Croatia as a treble.
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06-07-2016 , 02:35 PM
England/Germany/Spain/France all to win groups +580
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06-08-2016 , 06:58 PM
All in Brazil vs Haiti today. Its a lock

Got a 5 team par going $25 to win $280. Argentina, Panama, and Colombia won for me so far.

Still need Brazil and Mexico. Got the Brazil ml at -550 like 3 days ago, now its at -1000 lol
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06-08-2016 , 08:29 PM
I'm all over this Brazil -1.5 2H @ -140

A lot of these payers are trying to impress to lock contracts so they can easily score another 3 in the next 45 minutes, maybe even 4. Haiti is completely open and down 3-0 it's gonna keep raining goals just like Germany did to Brazil the other time. Brazil tied vs. Ecuador so they need the goal difference and there is no reason to play defensive as even if Haiti scores a goal on a counter they can easily score 3-4.
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06-08-2016 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Diaz
I'm all over this Brazil -1.5 2H @ -140

A lot of these payers are trying to impress to lock contracts so they can easily score another 3 in the next 45 minutes, maybe even 4. Haiti is completely open and down 3-0 it's gonna keep raining goals just like Germany did to Brazil the other time. Brazil tied vs. Ecuador so they need the goal difference and there is no reason to play defensive as even if Haiti scores a goal on a counter they can easily score 3-4.

Nice Brazil wins the 2H 4-1 for some easy $ , I even got a nice sweat there until around the 80th

A much smaller bet on +0.5 Peru @ +125 next
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06-08-2016 , 10:13 PM
and Goooooooooooool de Peru !!!!!!!!!!!
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06-08-2016 , 10:19 PM
Goooooooooooooooollllllll 2-0 Peru !!!!!!!!!
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06-08-2016 , 10:59 PM
Got Peru +455 ML before the game started, they needed it more and have dominated Ecuador in recent times. Good start, but we'll see, GL all.
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06-08-2016 , 11:19 PM
whatta game !!! 2-2 and let the sweat start

Peru needs to get Revoredo and Vilchez out. They can easily win this game their defense is just so **** lolol.
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06-08-2016 , 11:34 PM
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Got Peru +455 ML before the game started, they needed it more and have dominated Ecuador in recent times. Good start, but we'll see, GL all.
Peru back to +425 and dominating again... crazy crazy game

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06-09-2016 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfBets
Got Peru +455 ML before the game started, they needed it more and have dominated Ecuador in recent times. Good start, but we'll see, GL all.
That's too bad man good value on that bet.

Actually Ecuador is considered far superior to Peru these days.

I was very disappointed in the refs and in Peru's coach Gareca. Both Ecuador goals looked to be borderline offsides, normally 50% would be called so you simply run bad there.

That ref got card shy after he gave 2 yellows to Ecuador at the beginning of the game. Once the cards stopped Ecuador did what they do best and played dirty and pummeled Peru. That guy that got a red card in the 92nd minute should have gotten it before the end of the 1st half.

That Ecuadorian guy was dove for a penalty and got called out by half the Peruvian team should have gotten a yellow, that was just ridiculous.

Coach Gareca changed Hohber for Polo ??? wtf man.. that kid was having a great game, Polo plays in ****ing slow motion; he is the worst to compliment Guerrero.

Vilchez finally got replaced but too late and Reboredo got outrun/outmuscled/outsmarted all ****ing game. Peru played 90 minutes with practically 10 men as Reboredo just could not do anything. He even missed an easy 3rd goal for Peru in the 1st. He had the worst game ever and that is saying a lot about Reboredo who is considered brainless.

My +0.5 bet held but I am very sad for Peru as they deserved to win that one the way they played the 1st half.
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06-09-2016 , 09:04 AM
looking forward to the euro's , i'm having a bet on Belgium and Italy!
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06-09-2016 , 12:49 PM
Hi all, I wrote up a little preview for each of the Euro groups. Hope that can be helpful to people. Here's Group A, enjoy!


France


Their draw


The tournament favorite at 4,4 (Betfair). Lady luck has shined on the French draw and they face a rather soft group with some very defensive-minded teams. That should give them enough time to get rolling until the knockout stages. From then on they will have to face a third-placed team from the German/Spanish/Belgian group in the R16. Croatia or Poland are the strongest conceivable options. Their quarterfinal opponent looks pretty soft too. They will have to deal with whatever team (supposedly) finishes behind England in Group B, or Austria. Mind you that Portugal coming second in Group F isn’t quite as unrealistic as it might seem. Their most probable opponent in the Semis is Germany and things get quite serious from there. Judging by the draw, France is a deserved favorite. A semifinal appearance looks quite likely (1,71 Betfair) and is the minimum target to achieve.


Strengths


France boasts a very strong squad but has some notable absentees. In attack, Benzema misses due to his blackmail incident and will likely be replaced by Giroud as a center forward. Giroud doesn’t have the best of reputations and in my opinion Benzema would be a better fit for their attack with his mobility and playmaking qualities. However, Giroud has started in three friendlies this year and has found the back of the net in each of them, scoring four in total. France looks like one of the tournament’s best teams in terms of scoring prowess. They have scored in 18 out of 20 friendlies since their last competitive fixture vs Germany in Brazil and failed to do so only against England and Albania. Besides Giroud they can count on the versatile Antoine Griezmann on the right and Payet, who has had an excellent season at West Ham United, on the left. In midfield, Pogba provides an extra scoring option and he is the star and leader of the French squad.


Weaknesses


France looks good in attack due to their raw individual quality but defensively there are question marks. Sakho and Varane are missing the tournament with injuries, so Mangala and Koscielny should start in central defense. This makes still for a respectable duo but yet another area of concern is their full backs. Evra and Sagna are still decent players but not already in decline at their advanced age. Because of the easy draw this should not be too much of an issue before the semis. There, their possible opponent faces a somewhat familiar problem (*cough* Germany). France conceded twice in their first three friendlies in 2016 against the Netherlands, Russia and Cameroon and only kept a clean sheet against the toothless Scots. They are able to find the opponent’s goal even when conceding but it is worth to keep this in mind for latter stages of the tournament when outscoring the opposition is less of an option.


The group stage matches


That said, France has not faced competitive pressure in two years. They will be up versus a classic bus-parking team in their opening fixture against Romania, which should make things interesting. A somewhat tight and cagey opening match looks on the cards. Combining Correct Score odds on Betfair for a 1-0/2-0/3-0 win for 2,2 looks certainly worth a shot and is in my opinion better than the 1,3 for a straight win. France should be able to negotiate Albania in their second match despite failing to beat them twice in friendlies. This is reflected by the odds though, which are roughly the same as in their friendly fixture. Better odds should be available in play if you fancy the handicap, barring an unexpected spanking for Albania in their own opener. They will probably not need to win their last match against Switzerland to qualify. They might even have first place already locked up, so it is probably best to hold out. Since they started at 1,89 in the same match in Brazil, 1,65 does not appeal to me too much.


Outlook


France looks an almost certain winner of a poor group. They should be able to pick up at least seven points, even with all three opponents probably parking the bus against them. I was able to get France to win their group at 1,36 and to make the semis at 1,8. I would make 1,25 my cutoff for the former and 1,7 for the latter. Their high-scoring affairs, especially in this year’s friendlies, suggest that France still faces some problems in cohesion. I don’t think that any team in their group will be able to exploit this. Romania and Albania look way too defensive and toothless. Switzerland will likely play reactively too although they have a bit more individual quality. Come the knockout stages, the team should be sharper and they might not have to face a “big” team before the semis. From then on things get unpredictable but France surely look like one of the hot favorites to lift the trophy.


Picks


France to win Group A – 1 Unit@1,33 (Bet365)
France to beat Romania 1-0/2-0/3-0 – 1 Unit@2,2 net odds (Betfair)


Romania


Romania made it to the tournament in a poor qualification group that was won by Northern Ireland. They won five but also drew five, conceding only twice but also scoring a measly 11 goals. Romania even managed to sandwich three straight 0-0 in the middle of their campaign. Needless to say that the team plays, like a lot of the “smaller” teams at the tournament, very defensive-minded football. They are keeping a compact defense and look to break quickly with vertical football. Their last two friendlies were surprisingly goal-heavy (5-1 vs Georgia and 3-4 vs Ukraine). I am pretty sceptical that we will see the same kind of scoring in a match with competitive pressure. The team has no real stars and will face a side with a similar approach in Albania. The other competitor for second place in the group is playing a bit more offensively but is lacking the right balance (Switzerland). Still, if they can keep the damage low versus France and grind out a result in their second match versus Switzerland, they would be in with a real shot in their last match against minnows Albania. Unders might be the way to go and 1,67 in their last match against Albania makes appeal. Even, or perhaps especially, if you factor in that Romania might need a win to progress. They will likely face Germany or England in case they do make it out of the group as third-placed team. In the not entirely impossible event of coming second, Romania would likely play Poland or Ukraine in the R16. I would put them around 3ish to qualify there. So a QF appearance seems not entirely impossible but the stars would really have to align for Romania to make it that far. The more likely case is that they will find it hard to score in the group and finish third with one to four points, failing to qualify.


Albania


Albania is a real and true underdog at its first international appearance. In its very low-scoring qualification group, three wins and only seven goals in seven matches were enough to leave Denmark behind. They got a big break against Serbia in a match that was suspended due to a drone flying over the pitch. A 0-0 turned into a 3-0 and ensured the crucial points for qualifications. Albania’s style is based on defending deep and hoofing the ball long, looking to win second balls in dangerous areas. Naturally, this makes their offensive play pretty reliant on luck and chance. Only 27.1% of playing time in qualifications Albania was winning a match, which is in the bottom quarter of all qualified teams.


In terms of matchups, Albania has probably a pretty decent group. France will likely outclass them this time, having played them twice in friendlies and not won. Their first match against Switzerland will be key and a good indicator of how well the team can perform. I would expect them to keep it tight but eventually the Swiss should come out with the W. Romania plays pretty defensively as well and Albania has a decent chance of frustrating the Romanians with their reactive approach. I expect a lot of tight matches, deep defending and overall pretty ugly football. Albania could be good enough for a point or even two but I cannot see them winning a match as their quality in offense is simply too low to compete. My bet of choice was Albania to finish the group last and Ladbrokes gives a solid 1,75 on that. Even in a supposedly defensive group, anything over 1,6 looks good enough.


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Albania to finish bottom – 1 Unit@1,73 (Bet365)


Switzerland


The team


The Swiss have a solid, if not spectacular squad. They beat who they had to beat in qualifications and lost who they should lose to. Seven out of eight matches against opponents not named England were won and secured a comfortable second place. The squad boasts some strong names in Xhaka (playing at Arsenal from next season), Shaqiri (Stoke, their topscorer in qualis), Rodriguez (Wolfsburg), Lichtsteiner (Juventus) and others. Their style of play is based on a solid defence and playing constructively out of the back but then accelerating play quickly to get into the final third. However, they tend to be a bit unstructured in their offensive play and it shows in their matches. Switzerland have led only once at halftime if the opponent was not San Marino and were winning only 27.3% of their match time. That is barely better than tiny Albania. It seems that their vertical approach works better in the latter stages of the match when the opponent tires and the match becomes more stretched, something to keep in mind for their group stage matches.


Their group stage matches


Switzerland opens against Albania and will have to pick up full points there to make life easy on itself. Since they can struggle with breaking down opponents early, waiting for higher odds on them in play seems like a feasible option if you want to bet on Switzerland. Personally, I like the Switzerland & Under 2,5 option for 3,25 at Bet365. The Swiss play Romania second and if things go according to plan the matchup should be decent for them. Romania will be the team that is looking to pick up points and Switzerland should be happy to play patient football and wait for its chances. I would expect odds to come down a bit if both favorites win their first match on Matchday one in this group. Given their patient approach and Romania’s defensive tactics, another low-scoring match looks likely. Waiting for better odds in play looks like a viable option there too. The final match versus France is a replay of the 2014 World Cup fixture and the Swiss will look to avenge the heavy 2-5 defeat they suffered in Brazil.


The outlook


Switzerland is the designated “second team” in this group behind the French. Anything but progress to the round of 16 would be a disappointment. If they make the second place, the Swiss would likely play Poland or Ukraine in the next round, which is a realistic but tricky opponent to beat either way. Especially a matchup versus Poland would be interesting to see since the Poles play a more attacking style compared to the patient Swiss approach. Finishing third would probably mean elimination, as Germany and England are too strong for them. England in fact beat them 2-0 twice during qualifications. 2,375 at Bet365 for Switzerland to be eliminated in the round of 16 looks like a decent bet and is the correct favorite in that market.


Picks


Switzerland to win 1-0/2-0 – 0,75Units@3,25 (Bet365)
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06-09-2016 , 03:28 PM
Can you post something that thorough for all the groups please?
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06-09-2016 , 05:02 PM
Sure, I got groups A to E already written up and will be dropping them shortly. Planning on finishing F tomorrow and posting regular updates throughout the tournament
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06-09-2016 , 07:04 PM
Group B, two more to follow tomorrow. Happy to help!

England


Their draw


The tournament’s fourth favorite at 10 (Betfair). A mixture of a favourable draw and a surprising young team means that England could be in for a deep run at last. The group is very manageable and should suit England very well. In case England tops its group as expected, the Three Lions will face a third-placed team from the French/German/Spanish group. As for France, the worst case scenario would be Poland or Croatia but it will likely be an easier option. In the Quarters, one of the top four teams from the Belgian and Portuguese groups is waiting. This will be the first real test for England and they will likely have to play the first team that is solid at the back and has options at front too. Spain would await them in the Semis if things go according to plan. A decent draw indeed and if England their trend as flat-track bully (going to discuss that in a minute), they will have to face one strong team to make the Semis. Odds of 3 to make it that far (Ladbrokes) look worth a shot.


Their strengths


I have to say I am impressed with England this time. Is it finally going to be the time they wake up and go on a deep run? Things haven’t looked that promising in a while. And the upside is that the side should be even better in two years’ time for the World Cup. England looks well-prepared tactically this time. Their focus lies on direct quick football that utilises the strengths of their technically capable and fast players up front. They can start with two strikers in Kane and Vardy and Rooney behind them or change it to a 433 that could make use of the fast and direct Sterling and Sturridge. The beauty is that England has plenty of options off the bench this time. On top of that, they can mix it up with different types of players for their attacking positions. Their unit looks cohesive and stable at the back. The defense conceded only three times and England scored 20 times in 8 qualifiers (San Marino excluded) to win all 10 matches. In their friendlies since, they failed only to score against Spain.


Weaknesses


This all sounds very promising. However, England faces two big issues. The first is that their defense has been leaking goals recently. England managed only two clean sheets in seven games since qualifications, against Portugal and France (in the post-terror attack match). Cahill and Smalling are a decent pairing but both arguably lack the quality that the tournament’s top central defense pairings have. Spain, Germany and Portugal are either better individually or play lower-risk approach. England second weakness ties somewhat into the first. The team lacks experience and could be seen as a flat-track bully. Yes, they won all qualification matches but have lost since to Spain and the Netherlands. Against Germany they scored an impressive, if improbable, comeback win from two goals down. A lot of the younger players (and older – Jamie Vardy) will play their first big tournament this time. That could definitely be a factor in the latter stages of the tournament. England cannot quite control a match like Spain and does not have the impressive tournament credentials like Germany.


The group stage


With all that said – the group is doing England a big favour. Russia is far from being on course on becoming a top team until 2018. England should exploit its slow back line and pick up three points in the opener. Odds on England have come in quite a bit after their good results recently so I will personally hold out for 2,1 in play. Still, I expect England to take full points there. The “derby” against Wales looks like the toughest assignment. The Welsh have a very defensive setup and England will have to force play there probably even more than in the other two matches. I would rate Slovakia as the easiest assignment and expect another three points there. With all three opponents sitting back and defending England will probably not be dropping goals at will on them. The wins should come though and I think waiting a bit in play for better odds in all three matches is a decent strategy. I would be surprised if they finished on less than 7 points.


The outlook


Quo vadis England? Which road are they going to head down? In a decent but very average group, anything but winning it would surprise me big time. I definitely recommend the 1,83 on them to win the group (Bet365). This should not be higher than 1,65 in my opinion as the other teams will likely take points off each other as well. From then on the path gets more difficult and they will face a test of character in the Quarter Finals. With their poor tournament credentials and a questionable record against bigger national sides, I could not bring myself to back them for the Semis. But I think they do have the potential to make it that far.


Picks


England to win Group B – 1 Unit@1,83 – Bet365
England to beat Russia – 1 Unit@ 2,1 inplay as long as the score is 0-0 and 11v11


Russia


The team


Not only Russia’s economy is in a stage of crisis. The team was already headed for the exit sign before the conductor was changed and Leonid Slutsky led them to four straight wins to secure qualification. Their credentials still do not make for good reading. Two wins came against Liechtenstein and a third in a suspended match versus Montenegro. That leaves three wins and seven goals in seven matches. Friendlies since have not been much better. After a good win over Portugal, they lost three out of five, all of them to teams that play at the Euro. Problems can be found everywhere. The defense is rather old and slow. The Berezutzkis are 33, Ignashevich 36. Neustädter was given Russian citizenship and started in their final friendly and he might be an alternative, especially in the opening fixture against England. Denisov is out with injury on short notice, which leaves them without a holding midfielder. Build-up play is solid but uncreative versus teams that give them little room to operate. In all fairness, Russia made progress on that end and has scored in every single match since Slutsky’s takeover. Dzuyba, Kokorin and Shatov have good chemistry since they all play for Zenit. The question is how much the talented offense can make up for a questionable back line.


The group stage


Russia opens against England and the English should feast on that dodgy defense if Hodgson sets them up correctly. I mentioned in my England preview that I will hold out for better odds on the English side. I would make the same case for the over here. This match looks like one of the few opening fixtures that could actually feature goals. Both teams have their strengths in offense rather than defense and playing on the counter should suit Russia a bit more. Nothing wrong with taking the Over 2 at odds of 2,0 or higher as I expect play to open up the longer the match goes. Russia face Slovakia second and again odds on goals look decent with the over priced at 2,5. Much will depend on the outcomes of the first match. The final match against Wales is pure guesswork in this even group but Russia will not like having to force play in this one.


The outlook


As is often the case in Russia, there is potential for success but things are not going according to plan. They are poor at the back and not good enough in attack to make up for it. If they come second, Russia would face Portugal or Austria in the R16. Both look more cohesive and this will likely be the ceiling for their campaign. A third place would match them up with Germany or Spain and things could get nasty there. In this even group even coming last is not out of the question if things really go south.


Picks


England vs Russia Over 2 goals – 1 Unit@ 2,0 inplay as long as the score is 0-0 and 11v11


Wales


The team


Wales is another newcomer at the tournament and one that is more likely to score an upset. They operate with a back five and from an incredible stable defense. Wales are not classic busparkers. The team averaged more passes than their opponents in qualifications and had more possession than Ukraine and Sweden in their last two friendlies. They build up very slow and control the game. Incredibly, they haven’t conceded from open play in qualifications, as all four goals came from set pieces. Wales hasn’t won a friendly since and conceded three each against the Netherlands and Sweden. Their talismanic striker, and pretty much only source of goals – 7/11 in qualis – Gareth Bale didn’t start in any of those and that likely had a detrimental effect. He will return of course and he will have to do it all as all their attacking plays involve him in one way or another. Bale and Ramsey are the only true class players on the team. Take them out and you pretty much have yourself a point guaranteed already.


The outlook


Wales has a decent draw with a pretty balanced group. England is head and shoulders above them but not guaranteed at all to score an easy win. Russia looks dodgy in defense and Wales will probably let them force play. Slovakia is a counterattacking team itself, and I doubt they will like what they are going to see in their opener. The under at 1,45 is nastily low but should cash in nevertheless. Expect a lot of slow, grindhouse-type matches with Wales and few goals. Qualification would be a huge success and 4 points is not unrealistic at all.


Picks


Wales vs Slovakia Under 2,5 goals – 1 Unit@1,44 (Bet365)


Slovakia


Slovakia is the last team in the group. Outside of Martin Skrtel and their star Marek Hamsik they have few “name players”. Slovakia will likely opt for a counterattacking strategy against Russia and England. They might even let Wales control the tempo of the game, which will most likely make for an unattractive game. Slovakia scored only 10 goals in 8 qualifiers (Luxemburg excluded), but they did beat Spain and recently Germany in a friendly. They are a bit of an enigmatic team, struggling to break down some smaller teams but others not (scoring three vs Switzerland, Iceland and Georgia). They should be massively outclassed by better sides but are good for the odd upset. For an unspectacular team Slovakia shows surprising highs and lows. Hence, I don’t really what to make of them. A stalemate in their opener versus Wales looks likely and a 0-0 would not surprise me at all. That would force them to get a bit more proactive versus Russia in their second match. Although I see England a class above them, I don’t think they would be intimidated by them. Remember, Slovakia beat Italy 3-2 at the World Cup 2010. As for the other two sides, anything between 2 and 4 seems possible for them but four matches is the maximum they are going to play.
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06-09-2016 , 07:04 PM
Small parlay today Mexico -1.5 and Uruguay first to score. 2.2u to win almost 4u
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06-10-2016 , 12:12 AM
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That's too bad man good value on that bet.

Actually Ecuador is considered far superior to Peru these days.

I was very disappointed in the refs and in Peru's coach Gareca. Both Ecuador goals looked to be borderline offsides, normally 50% would be called so you simply run bad there.

That ref got card shy after he gave 2 yellows to Ecuador at the beginning of the game. Once the cards stopped Ecuador did what they do best and played dirty and pummeled Peru. That guy that got a red card in the 92nd minute should have gotten it before the end of the 1st half.

That Ecuadorian guy was dove for a penalty and got called out by half the Peruvian team should have gotten a yellow, that was just ridiculous.

Coach Gareca changed Hohber for Polo ??? wtf man.. that kid was having a great game, Polo plays in ****ing slow motion; he is the worst to compliment Guerrero.

Vilchez finally got replaced but too late and Reboredo got outrun/outmuscled/outsmarted all ****ing game. Peru played 90 minutes with practically 10 men as Reboredo just could not do anything. He even missed an easy 3rd goal for Peru in the 1st. He had the worst game ever and that is saying a lot about Reboredo who is considered brainless.

My +0.5 bet held but I am very sad for Peru as they deserved to win that one the way they played the 1st half.
Glad ur +0.5 hit at least, that's got to be one of the worst beats I've had on a much larger then usual bet on Peru. Had maybe 20% of that Peru bet on Venezuela today then Mexico -1.5 so back up on the horse, can't complain about today but I will happily never think of yesterday ever again. GL
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06-10-2016 , 02:06 AM
the top lads at b365 giving away free coin again with their £50 pre match £50 refundable in play if lost on England vs Russia what we thinking? thought about over 0.5 goals and bet 0-0 in play or alternatively btts no 1st half pre and btts yes 1st half in play though I very much doubt this will be a game of much action. thoughts?
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06-10-2016 , 09:31 AM
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EURO 2016 Top Scorer

I think that the top goalscorer market for the tournament is interesting, with an extra round for the first time, but no third and fourth place playoff game, we do not have any recent history to compare, but I doubt too much will change and that it will really be Group stage goals that will clinch it for someone, but ideally you would like to make at least the quarter final stage and it is hard to see less than five goals being enough this time round. Given that we have already discussed Mandzukic and also like Croatia's chances of making the quarters and possible beyond, it is hard to leave him out of the equation at a big looking 33-1 , but I will pass, given that we are already involved heavily on him and Croatia.

Ronaldo is favourite at 9.0 and I have no problem with that at all and those odds could look a gift in two weeks time with group opponents Austria , Hungary and Iceland having very little big tournament experience between them in the last two decades. But I prefer the chances of another proven goalscorer who is available at twice the odds. That is Robert Lewandowski of Poland, who I have already touched upon as dark horses. They look in a tough group with Germany, Ukraine and Northern Ireland, but were very impressive in qualifying, look a team on the up and have a really offensive minded approach. They scored a whopping 33 goals in qualification and whilst 15 came against group whipping boys , 18 otherwise in a section which included Germany and defensively minded Republic of Ireland and Scotland is very worthy of note. They ended just a point shy of the world champions and scored three goals in the two h2h games with them. The look the second best team in Group C, will certainly not fear the Germans after running them so close in qualifying and finishing top 2 would see them face either a third placed team, or the runner up in the England group and both would be matches we would favour them to win. So a last eight place is very much on the cards. They open against the Irish and whilst Matchday 1 games in any tournament are usually tight, this is their best opportunity to run in a few goals and they will want the points with Germany up next, they finish against a usually defensive Ukraine team, but one who might be forced out of their usual approach by their need for points at that stage.

Lewandowski with 13 goals was the top striker in qualifying , six v Gibraltar with 7 in the other eight games, he was top scorer in Bundesliga with his highest ever tally of 30 goals with an even split of 15 before and 15 after the Christmas break, his total of 9 in the Champions League was his best total since Dortmund's run the final in 2012-13 and a better goals per minute rate than for that campaign. Poland have scored two or more goals in 12 of the last 16 games that the Bayern striker has played and if they play five games and I favour then to do so, he must have a good chance of scoring enough to take him very close in this market.

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I think this is a really interesting market with the new tournament format. I've been playing around some on betfair.

My biggest hope:
Derdiyok (Switzerland) 1/1000

He is the main striker of a team that is playing Albania and Romania in the group stages. I think there is some value there.

Other dark horses i have are Arnautovic, Shaqiri, Dzyuba and Smolov.
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