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Old 09-10-2009, 11:04 PM   #1
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Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

My thought was always that on fully bet games like NFL, the vast majority of the betting is by the public, and the sharp betting has virtually no chance to influence the line. I recall reading this in many places. The only lines that are moved by sharp money, if I recall correctly, are "underbet" games, like obscure college games and so on.

Is this correct? All the line moves I ever see for fully bet games like playoffs or NFL games always appear to be solely moved by the public.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:24 PM   #2
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A dollar is a dollar is a dollar.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:33 PM   #3
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

But I think that in general OP is underestimating the amount of sharp money.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:39 PM   #4
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

Can someone please define 'sharp betting', thanks
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:51 PM   #5
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A dollar is a dollar is a dollar.
You have missed the point of the question.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:07 AM   #6
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You have missed the point of the question.
you missed his assumption.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:54 AM   #7
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

So you must bet a lot of WNBA right?
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:26 AM   #8
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So you must bet a lot of WNBA right?
Unpossible. I do not believe that there are any WNBA squares out there. Who is a degenerate sweating the Storm?
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:53 AM   #9
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Unpossible. I do not believe that there are any WNBA squares out there. Who is a degenerate sweating the Storm?
The morrison clowns were betting a lot of WNBA, till they lost that C bet (they were moving these lines 5+ pts sometimes).

There are a bunch of idiots following some want to be touts at sbr in wnba, they allegedly are winning, they are also teasing wnba games.

And yea I love losing +7.5 by 8 in ot

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Old 09-11-2009, 08:37 AM   #10
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you missed his assumption.
No I really don't think I did.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:54 AM   #11
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No I really don't think I did.
No. You did.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:25 PM   #12
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Unpossible. I do not believe that there are any WNBA squares out there. Who is a degenerate sweating the Storm?
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:10 PM   #13
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Are lesbians more prone to gambling degeneracy than hetero women?
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:13 PM   #14
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No, just more prone to sweat a WNBA game
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:01 PM   #15
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No I really don't think I did.
I know you are but what am I.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:43 PM   #16
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

The question is poorly phrased. Yes, of course sharp money "ever" moves an NFL line. The question should be something like:

"How often does sharp money move an NFL line 1 point or more in a 24 hour period?"

Now that's a question I'd like to see answered. I'd guess it's 3-4 times a week. We can define "sharp money" as money bet by all players who have a positive expectation, but for all practical purposes we're really just talking about players and groups who bet a LOT on the games they choose to play.
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:18 PM   #17
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A dollar is a dollar is a dollar.
I come for the sports betting advice, but stay for the Gertrude Stein references.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:39 AM   #18
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

Depends on the game and the amount of $ obv. 2nd half bets, obscure college games and totals move swiftly if any big bets are placed on them, since usually that's going to be the sharp money.
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:39 AM   #19
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No. You did.
NO. I didn't. The question was not whether all dollars are created equal. We all know that. The question was whether smart money forms enough of the pool on a well bet game (such as an NFL game) to move the line significantly. So kindly stfu until you understand what I am asking.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:04 PM   #20
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

i hope thremie regains his lost rage.

As for Centris, when you go to bet Oakland this week, there's no there there.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:25 PM   #21
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

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My thought was always that on fully bet games like NFL, the vast majority of the betting is by the public, and the sharp betting has virtually no chance to influence the line.
You are pretty much correct.Guys who bet for a living make their money in other sports.Most of them still bet NFL because they are degenerates but a big bet by a pro gambler doesn't carry much weight on an NFL game as opposed to a college,basketball or baseball game.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:35 PM   #22
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Re: Does sharp money ever move a line for an NFL game?

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NO. I didn't. The question was not whether all dollars are created equal. We all know that. The question was whether smart money forms enough of the pool on a well bet game (such as an NFL game) to move the line significantly. So kindly stfu until you understand what I am asking.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:42 PM   #23
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Are lesbians more prone to gambling degeneracy than hetero women?
Over represented at poker tables. Under-represented at the Roulette wheel.

Draw your own conclusions.
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