Sheep and Wolves.

I'm not saying I got all the answers in life or even maybe a few, but my gut says going into something like this in Vegas never ends well. Be careful

I will. I'll keep a diary on here. I really don't have any degen qualities going into this,though...and I'm looking at a sub $1k nut a month.

best part is i'll remember it now.

second best part is you've definitely read a post of mine when i wasn't technically "conscious". lol

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UTHlXb0PXh4

Brilliant.

Wow I'm in tears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCBKQnt4ijs

comment below nails it:

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Totally fake, created for TV. Anyone can search and find that vipsports wasnt even registered as a website until a year ago. No one in Vegas has ever heard of him. Multiple telemarketing fraud convictions. There is no such thing as 50% commission on winners, just think of how insane that would be, you'd need to hit 69% to break even lol. Money management program, then puts 20% on one game lol!! They are calling it a "docu-soap". CNBC is basically giving a con man his first paid acting job."

Man they didn't even attempt to make this look real.

Yeah...he has a horrible reputation. It's almost like they didn't even screen him.

There's no such thing as too far. You understand? You push everything as far as you can. You push and you push and you push until it starts pushing back.

And then you push some goddamn more. I'd say that sums it up.

It looks like CNBC unabashedly tried to make a Wolf of Sportsbooks show

Moral or not. I believe there's money to be made in this racket. I'm 23, unattached...it's worth a shot.

If you thought there was money to be made from it, would you sell a pregnant mother crack? I'm not actually trolling here, it's a valid question based on what other posters have explained about this career and the impact it has on lives if you do your job "well".

That is an excellent question. One I'm not comfortable answering right now.

Diary of a Degen Hunter, is up on house of blogs. I'll be writing an entry every day.

Have you been reading my blog?

Did it get deleted?

FYI it probably got deleted cuz instead of doing a good exposé you started almost touting in 2p2 by the bs you were flowing about the wizard room. Shoulda listened to my advice

where?

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Note by prop. He responded with his user name + .com URL

Why do you talk about "models" when all you do is use touts?

My fav is when you tell people you are closing on April 1, and then you didn't really close!

Theoretically speaking, if someone was good enough to beat the games at that clip, why would they bother selling the picks? I guess if they get banned from enough accounts it makes sense. But just strikes me as odd. There are 4-5 guys on here that are that good or better, and I dont think it's ever once occurred to them to tout.

How are you getting your pics in quick enough to beat the line moves?

Also when you say staking strategy, what do you mean? You're not just paying for a service like a classic tout, you're staking a skilled bettor?

Note to poster just banned. If you'd like to come back with a non-commercial user name to discuss or respond and do so without self promoting, feel free.

I'm not defending touts here on the whole. Quite simply, the vast majority of touts are just salesman. They just happen to be selling sports info. Like all good salesman, the quality of the product is irrelevant.

But, there are a number of difficulties with regard to betting enough volume to make money, even if you are a solid, high-volume 5% ROI punter. Location and current roll are problematic for a lot of people, as are the swings associated with sports betting. I am a profitable sports bettor, but if I could also find 150 people to pay me $100/month for my picks, I would do it, and the venture would be profitable for me, as well as them. I've thought about doing this before, but the tedium of websites, advertising, tweeting, etc, etc, is extremely uninteresting to me. But, adding $15K of guaranteed revenue to my volatile gambling revenue stream? That part sounds good to me.

Not sure if this is what he means, but I am aware of a few set-ups where a staker sets up offshore sportsbetting accounts, and the punter uses the funds there to place bets. Profits are shared via some agreed upon split. Staker fronts the money (and takes on any risk). Punter does the work. Sorta like poker staking.

This may sound simple and silly, but if you took $4000 of the $15000 to pay someone to do all the web/advert/tweeting etc... Wouldn't that work? You just need to do a bit of legwork up front to make it so that they can see your bets fairly quickly.

Not silly. Definitely could work.

I gamble professionally in order to not have responsibilities and do as please, frequently missing out on volume/profits because I am too lazy to dedicate my energy to doing adequate research and spend months at a time barely doing anything productive or making money either (The Dude abides). Crushers print money as needed and being a tout and crushing sports are generally mutually exclusive. Marginally educated meatheads with 8th grade logic like Sharky exemplify the tout intellect and critical thinking ability.

I would never want to deal with degen gamblers or be on a schedule of providing picks. I hate attention and as my screen names implies, do not like most people in general. Besides, speaking from experience, half your clients would lose even if you spoon fed them something with a huge edge like Nascar or the first half of the NCAAF season.