PaulyJames;
this kind of operation would be tough to manage even if both parties are knowledgable and not lazy. It sounds like you have at best half that equation. Betting in vegas is actually pretty tough, its not easy getting around the strip and getting in and finding the books all in time to beat a line move. Youd need someone with half a brain and certainly someone who leaves their house more than 2x a week. I dont give a **** either way but my advice would be to stare at a wall instead and save yourself a lot of time and energy.

Hey. Yes i agree with a lot of what you are saying. Well my friend has a car and can drive around but again... he is very lazy and doesn't like leaving the house much so this would be very hard already.


I had figured if he open accts at cantor, stations, william hill and south point, then theres the las vegas online apps.


But for the betting at the actual sportsbooks, it would be westgate, wynn, mgm mostly. I been in vegas so i know which sportsbooks on the strip are next to each other etc but yea it would be very tough for him to do this as he would have to go from one place to another. He would have to park and get out etc which would be a huge hassle just to et a few bets in.


When you say beat a line move, you mean finding off and stale lines right? Because i wasn't talking about betting steam.


He told me when he was younger, he bet a good bit of money betting sports but now when he bets, its only 5 dollars a game etc just for the heck of it to enjoy himself. And yea the more i think about it, its going to be a huge hassle as i dont think the amts that i would want to be betting would be worth it as i want to bet mostly 500-1000 but some 2000 to 3000 but that wouldn't be regular size bets. Also if i were to give 10 percent... i think thats very little money as well even if i win its not going to be tht much. I think for ppl who are betting minimum 2k a game, it probably would be worth it. Would u agree on that?

no. betting in vegas isnt really what its cracked up to be in my experience. they offer very few props and team totals, theres a lot of juice, and most books hate taking any kind of sharp action. Ive had a 500 dollar bet rejected before. Sure theres stale lines here and there and once in a while youll find some nuggets, and the super bowl is a field day, but overall betting online is way better.

cantor app

heck, they'll reject $5 bets from me often... I put them in just to test whether it's a particular bet or just them being pissed with me overall after multiple rejections of other bets.

I've had bets of $500 to $1000 sit in limbo. When you put it in on the app, it will say approval required. Then, anywhere from 10s to 5m later, usually, you'll get an accepted or rejected message. I've had instances where that message never came.

Also, a big LOL if you think you're friend is going to be able to sit at another book and use the online apps. Their location services, like most regulated gaming, is garbage. There is a high fail rate if I'm not sitting at home on my usual wifi (except for Boyd who won't let you be on wifi when using their app bconnected sports). Many of these will kill your data plan if you're not on wifi anyway.

Cantor is Satan.

I must suck because I've had no issues betting large amounts (mid 4 figs to 5 figs) through Cantor on major markets, both on the app and at the counter.

If you're not some big time bettor wagering thousands per game why don't you just bet with one of the overseas sports books?

Half the time they'll move the line on me, the other half they'll offer me some small fraction of what I want.

On the app, it's 85/15.

They deal one-sided action worse than any book by a massive margin.

im happy to lay pinny prices on nfl- would it be legal for me to do that?

I don't see why not. What's the worst that could happen?

I believe William Hill app does this. If you try to bet more than their normal max which is pretty small depending on sport, could be as low as lay to win $275 on college bb I can't remember exactly but if you type in higher than normal then it says you can ask for approval or cancel.

I have asked for approval and sometimes they approve for much higher, obviously if its something they need but you could be in limbo waiting for like 5 minutes or so but most of the time it comes back in like 20-30 seconds.

Hey , always wanted to make a sportsbet in Vegas but always walk by and don't simply because I don't really know how. I understand point spreads and moneylines just don't know how to word this. Going in 2 weeks and want to bet a few college and NBA games. Probably just $100 and under bets. Can anyone help me out how I would do this? Do I fill out a ticket? Walk to a window and tell them what I want? Also how could I bet 3 tram parlays, and what would that pay... Ex. Cleveland and over, and golden state... If I made that bet for $100 what would it pay? Thanks for any help!

find the game on their board and there will be a # next to each game. For example if the game is 1055, say you want $100 1055 under

if you want to parlay just say

i want to parlay 1055 ML, 1040 spread, 1043 ML for $100

To cover the Nevada legal issues, you need a formal contract that makes your runner a partner in the wagers. I don't think there is a formal percentage standard, but it can be like ridiculously low. If the runner is at least minimally invested in the outcomes of the games he is betting, it gets you around the runner laws.

Texas, I have absolutely no idea, but I guess the whole setup you have would be a direct violation of the Federal Wire Act, so there is that consideration if you get big enough.

Even though the playoffs have already begun?

Yes

yay

thanks

Driving into town, from SD, saw a billboard saying TI has a sports betting app now. Along with Cantor, WHill, SoPt, Coast, Stations, that makes 6, right?

Anyone tried TI yet?

Any word on whether LVH is coming out with an app, or anyone else for that matter?

In my dreams, they all do.

TI is the same backbone as Coasts.

Superbook will be out with one soon if not already. It is provided by same company as Coast/ti. It's Westgate rather than Las Vegas Hilton.

Low limits most everywhere. Cantor and NV sportsbook (SouthPt/Rampart) are the only ones who will take over a dime on the apps. Some don't take more than nickels. Hell, some Coast (B-Connected) are $300 max.

All cowards.

TY, MT2R. Sorry to hear that TI and WG are using Coast software. It's the worst of the bunch, imo.

FYI fellow I know ran up a decent 5 digit balance on Cantor app over 2 weeks during the NCAA tourney last year and was arrested and had his whole balance confiscated byt the IRS for structuring when he tried to withdraw the same amount he had initially deposited ($9600) leaving a large balance on the app to play with, in the susequent legal proceedings Cantor was found to have been complicit in reporting the guy to the feds, providing access to records etc, so not sure I would feel that safe with anything meaningful in any vegas apps

also have had numerous max ($1000) bets declined during in game betting on cantor, the guy in the above story told me that he would always bet 990 and the in game bets went thru no problem

Yeah, when you withdraw $9600, you're going to get reported. I actually try to go over $10k whenever I can to show I'm on the up-and-up with the gov types. After all, they have the guns.

I agree simply because you cannot be on wifi and use the Miomi backbone. FWIW, the books can set different limits on that software, so ti takes a whole lot more than Coast does. I expect Westgate Superbook to be more like ti.

I used to like the stations app the most due to the quick round-robin of teasers/parlays. They slashed my limits though. Plus, it takes like 4 confirmation screens to get in a bet.

Guess Cantor remains the best app for betting. Stations gives the best player card benefits though (0.1% of wager size-a couple others have the same but it doesn't go to straight cash homey).

NV/WH has an issue where having multiple betting apps opens requires you to log-in everytime you switch to another app and back, which is a fail.

Oh well, just thankful that this football season I can be sitting by one B&M only book and have 8 other legal books on my phone. Makes me feel so legitimate.

Yeah, Cantor, for many markets, has an instant approval of anything less than $1k. If it hits $1k, it requires approval by a person. I never bet in-game there. Just don't have time to bet in-game like I did a couple years ago. Heard they killed in-game off as the punters were actually beating them on that with all costs considered. Waiting for approval would hamper in-game betting big time.

The season starts 9/10 Thursday. I want to make a futures bet based on the whole season but I don't arrive in Vegas until 9/13 Sunday. However, the team I want to bet on doesn't play the first game until Sunday. Would Vegas books let me make the bet Sunday before the games start even though the official season started Thursday?