Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > General Gambling > Sports Betting

Notices

Sports Betting Discussions related to wagering on sporting events.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #1111
Goes hard in the paint
 
CHRONICFEVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 8,136
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroBob View Post
No. Merging the two chatter threads would be a total mess. Not going to do that. I don't see a big problem bumping an old topic when something relevant happens or is added.

I may break down all the Brian discussion and merge all of that into it's own thread though. And then can add it to the sticky and it will rock.
haha , maybe lock old thread, rename this one?
just dont see a point of having to look through 2 chatter threads everytime
most of the discussion is here anyways

edit : http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40...39/index2.html
this thread is sick gold, being a tout is like being a pornstar amongst catholics or something
CHRONICFEVER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2012, 11:02 PM   #1112
Pooh-Bah
 
TomCowley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,346
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

What's the fair line?

Poogs is on crack vs. right angle sports hoopsedge wnba up to their old tricks?
TomCowley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 02:33 AM   #1113
still catching up
 
wiper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in Rick Rubin i trust
Posts: 27,430
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

POOGS INTERVENTION.
wiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 05:23 PM   #1114
Pooh-Bah
 
GreenSmoke85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,919
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Quote:
Originally Posted by TomCowley View Post
What's the fair line?

Poogs is on crack vs. right angle sports hoopsedge wnba up to their old tricks?
parlay that up ftw.
GreenSmoke85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 07:35 PM   #1115
veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,533
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

you can look for yourselves.

They released their plays between 11:03 and 11:07 during the week, and on about half of their plays youd see movement on wnba at betonline at like 11:01 and itd always be on the RAS side.

crack is whack
Poogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 06:27 PM   #1116
centurion
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 139
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

It is simply not true and comparing line history with our release time stamp at BetOnline or any other book can easily prove it.

We watch the screen during every single release to see if any last second changes have to be made to our release line, and while there is always more movement than normal leading up to and during our releases, there is never any remotely consistent movement that is predictive of our plays.

No one outside our immediate group that participates in originating has knowledge of RAS plays before they are released and I will offer a $10,000 reward to anyone who can prove otherwise.
RightAngle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 07:14 PM   #1117
still catching up
 
wiper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in Rick Rubin i trust
Posts: 27,430
sure dude.
wiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 07:19 PM   #1118
centurion
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 139
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiper View Post
sure dude.
It is easy to throw out false accusations, but the line histories are there for every release for anyone to see, and if it was really happening as Poogs describes, it would be easy for anyone to just take out Pinn/Cris and whoever each time after BO moved. It just isn't true. Did not happen.
RightAngle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 07:42 PM   #1119
Pooh-Bah
 
B00T's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,090
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Quote:
and while there is always more movement than normal leading up to and during our releases,
Why would there be more movement than normal leading up to your release?
B00T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 07:50 PM   #1120
centurion
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 139
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Quote:
Originally Posted by B00T View Post
Why would there be more movement than normal leading up to your release?
If you don't get your bets in beforehand, you risk having your number getting taken out by our release.

We release around the same time each day, and send a warning out 3-6 minutes before the start of our release.

Anyone who is active in the same markets as us is likely to be familar with RAS.
RightAngle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2012, 03:24 PM   #1121
veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,533
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Ok so someone related to you guys must be betting at BOL before the release I guess. Its either that or its a pretty shocking coincidence that betonline would move their WNBA lines to your guys side minutes before your release.

Its not a huge deal and Im not gonna get into a thremp-war with you, but you cant deny that someone was betting your numbers at betonline before the release.
Poogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2012, 04:27 PM   #1122
centurion
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 139
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Lines on our releases did not move at BO minutes before each release with anything close to meaningful regularity or consistency. Again, I am watching the screen during every release. It simply did not happen and line history from any line service can easily prove this.

Furthermore, if a line ever became non-widely available in the minutes before release, we would either adjust the release line or scratch the play.
RightAngle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2012, 04:46 PM   #1123
still catching up
 
wiper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in Rick Rubin i trust
Posts: 27,430
...because you're such an honest service with a history of transparency.
wiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2012, 05:01 PM   #1124
old hand
 
GuiGui_88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,424
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

Even if you were able to get down at BO, Bookmaker, Greek, Heritage, 5dimes with RAS picks they would just cut you off for chasing steam if you won consistently.

The service is worthless since Pinnacle changes the lines in a millisecond. Whether that is done via a private RAS release or by Pinnacle themselves then good for whoever.
GuiGui_88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2012, 05:11 PM   #1125
old hand
 
GuiGui_88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,424
Re: April - June LC Thread: Good old country hardball

actually not totally worthless since anybody trading in the CBB market should close pay attention to their card and the lines they liked (sides+totals during nov-dec and totals the rest of the season)
GuiGui_88 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive