I don't know what you're referring to Thremp and of course I didn't store the API at the time I was a recreational sports bettor playing poker full time betting $100 a game when these events occurred. Obviously I take sports betting more seriously now than I did then and my current results and bet size reflect that.
San, Innovation and Soulkey all had matches voided by Pinnacle due to match fixing as did Marineking. If you don't think any one of them specifically match fixed or deny that pinnacle voided a bet in any of their cases feel free to specify which one and i'll go dig out the proof. Yoda and Bboongbboong were tried and convicted along with a few other players that I hadn't specifically mentioned (Life, Bbyong, etc). One of the commentators for Proleague clearly had knowledge that extensive match fixing was going on from his tweets at around the time. From memory those were the six players I had accused of match fixing, two were convicted for it and four had lines cancelled by Pinnacle for suspected match fixing. I would happily bet my entire net worth that all six were guilty if there were a way to automatically have it be graded based on the truth, at the end of the day if you don't believe the evidence + Pinnacle's conclusion then you're just stupid.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft...Fixing_Scandal
I believe Byul opened at 1.73 I just found the screenshot and i'll upload it.
http://imgur.com/a/VDCXg
Here's shortly before the line was taken down and all bets cancelled. I believe it moved in even further from memory but don't have a screenshot from closer to the close. I do remember the max bet was either 1k or 2k when the line started getting smashed in the hour or so before the game and calculating that probably something like low six figures would have needed to be bet on the line to move it that far at obviously hugely -EV prices and the line kept getting pounded at more than -1000, the post is in the relevant teamliquid thread
http://imgur.com/WirtYUB
Here is a screenshot from shortly before the line went down with Byul at 1.09, I believe the line was hit a couple of times after this and closed even shorter from memory but can't be 100% sure as it happened a long time ago, I can ask Pinnacle for the details if it's super important to you, the point is a player was bet from less than -150 to more than -1111 with what was at the time high limits for esports at a couple k a pop, not to mention whatever the match fixers had down at the Korean books. Even the non korean jobbers, the worst players on the circuit, ALWAYS had drastically better odds than this in a best of 1 against players of Byul's caliber. In that very same image, Hero vs Center would have been considered a far greater mismatch in terms of player ability at the time. Hero was one of the best players in the league at the time and Center was one of the worst. Marineking was slightly below average and Byul was slightly above average by comparison.
Then anyone who has played Starcraft 2 at a semi competent level knows the series of errors in the match are impossible for a Grand Master level player to make, let alone all of them in succession. When combined with the betting line and Pinnacle voiding bets due to suspected fixing, it seems pretty obvious what happened. To draw any other conclusion, as a supposedly intelligent and successful sports bettor is baffling. If you legitimately believe that match fixing didn't occur by any of the six listed players, let's put a few k on it, i'll present the evidence to a panel of agreed upon experts and they can determine whether match fixing was likely to have occurred in the game in question. I'd submit the Pinnacle fraud/security team as potential candidates, but they've already made their ruling.
Congratulations once again for derailing another thread for no reason, if you legitimately don't believe Marineking threw the match put some money up against me at evens and i'll present my case to a panel of experts - let's say something like a professional starcraft 2 player, someone who works for a sportsbook in detecting fraud/match fixing and a professional sports bettor. We can set the question as 'in your opinion is match fixing overwhelmingly the most likely explanation for the events that unfolded' or similar. Obviously that's not going to happen though as you would lose close to 100% of the time and you're not stupid enough to burn money I think.
And congratulations on derailing another thread. I think at this point the derail can be moved to the low content thread and the link from Buccofan's post should be added to OP and that can basically be the end of the thread.
@IRS I haven't withdrawn from there recently but have in the past see no reason they'd be insolvent. This should be limited to some sort of breach where customer credit card numbers were stolen, I doubt 5dimes actually lost any customer funds as a result of whatever happened.
Last edited by SwoopAE; 04-17-2017 at 02:53 PM.