2012 Major League Baseball - Page 2 - Sports Betting

rsigley · 02-17-2012, 01:13 PM

no ryan howard, chase utley, oswalt

marlins/braves/nationals are better

prolly has something to do with it

tjk0206 · 02-17-2012, 02:57 PM

Expecting repeated performance 200+ innings from Halladay/Lee/Hamels again with pitchers getting hurt frequently. Victorino likely to regress etc...not say it will happen just winning 100 games is really hard to do.

GarbageMan · 02-18-2012, 03:20 AM

anyone get any pirate money down before the aj burnett trade?

thess123 · 02-18-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SbteH

@thess I don't really see how this Phillies team is 7 loses worse than 2011 phillies

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Originally Posted by rsigley

no ryan howard, chase utley, oswalt

marlins/braves/nationals are better

prolly has something to do with it

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SunOfBeach · 02-18-2012, 12:48 PM

Phillies under seems like solid value.

SbteH · 02-18-2012, 02:54 PM

No Howard for 1 month.

Oswalt last year. 9-10 3.7 ERA, 1.34whip

Utley had 398 AB's last year, is supposed to play a lot more this year.

Definitely everyone else in the division improving is a big factor but I don't consider it a lock as you guys

SbteH · 02-18-2012, 02:58 PM

I really like the Nationals over, they won 81 last year. This year they have Gio, Strasburg, E-Jax, Zimmerman healthy

zioxcult · 02-18-2012, 06:39 PM

There must be some value in the overs for NL Central teams. Pitts, Chi, Hou are projected to be bad. STL and MIL lost their star players, driving down their projected wins. CIN over seems good. They play each other so often that they can't all lose that much.

Detective McNulty · 02-19-2012, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyCuyler

With soo much time until payoff, a solid bond investment might have a higher expected yield. I like your pick though.

Their pitching is vastly underrated. They lost Gio Fernandez, a good underrated arm, but picked up Bartolo Colon who should love pitching in Oakland, a real pitcher's park with a wide foul ball area.

For the sake of your bet hopefully Dallas Braden returns to full form from his shoulder surgery. If soo he will make up a helluva 1-2 pitching punch with McCarthy who closed out the season strong (I remember riding him and under late in season). Anderson's return from Tommy John is also important, but pitching shouldn't be their issue.

Their real need is offensive obviously. Cespedes should definitely add some much needed production 20-30 HR should easily be within reach for him. That will mean alot for a team who was so desperately in need of a punch last season. Oakland is usually overlooked by their hometown fans even. I think they go over here usually, GL.

*Gio Gonzalez, an adequete, overrated arm

FYP

wiper · 02-19-2012, 04:26 AM

two things: i'm a total cleveland homer, but 1) the stupid, easy-gotten number i have is like, several games above 75. and 2) 75.5 makes me totally scared that i'm not doing it right. there are 6 teams that i have off by 4+ games. i have money sitting aside specifically for mlb season props, but now i'm mad/sad/feeling dumb.

anyone else project the indians at 79.97?

wiper · 02-19-2012, 04:29 AM

no, you don't. you know why? because you're smarter than me.

****.

for the record, i already bet the over indians wins. that said, tomorrow i'm gonna make sure i'm right, and drop 30ish units on what my stats say.

my wife doesn't understand why that money shouldn't go towards a cruise next winter. i can't promise her i'm not wrong. ugh

MrLemonJuice · 02-19-2012, 10:38 AM

As for the Phillies:

Ryan Howard is supposed to return by May 1. He's having a press conference I think on Tuesday to discuss this.

Contreras is back.

Papelbon > Madson.

They added Chad Qualls.

Worley > Oswalt.

They have Pence for a full season. The Phillies led the National League in runs after he was acquired.

They get Utley at the start of the season. Last spring training he had to sit on a stool to field ground balls.

Polanco's sports hernia is repaired.

Their pinch-hitting has been massively upgraded.

Their middle relievers (Stutes/Bastardo) are young and will probably have an even better year. Maybe Willis will work out.

The Phillies pitching staff last year was first in ERA, first in quality starts and first in WHIP.

Hopefully Manuel will not run his starting rotation into the ground. If he does they'll probably lose again in the playoffs but still win 96 games.

There are far better bets than u95.5.

MrLemonJuice · 02-19-2012, 11:40 AM

Sorry to run on. Marlins and Nationals are better. Braves may be better. Maybe not. Mets are worse. Phillies also coasted for the last month of last season. rsigley is the smartest one here but how do you model a General Manager who if his team looks like it's going to win 93 or 94 games in a competitive NL East will go out and spend $10 million to make sure that doesn't happen. Come June, Amaro will start spending money.

rsigley · 02-19-2012, 12:11 PM

true phillies will prolly win 140 games minimum

MrLemonJuice · 02-19-2012, 12:28 PM

I give you a compliment and you get sassy. I'm just saying there are better bets than u95.5 for the Phillies. I guess we'll know more by June about the time they play the Twins and the Blue Jays.