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Old 06-12-2012, 11:29 PM   #1
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ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

Don't really know what to do, opponent doesn't seem to 4bet all that much. But I believe the fact that I'm holding AK greatly increase the probability that he's bluffing (if he ever does in that spot)

OR folds to 70% of 3bets, I 3bet around 7%. Villain is playing 19/17 with a 13%4bet over 1.1k hands

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13203851

    Hero (BTN): $128.90 (128.9 bb)
    SB: $322.55 (322.6 bb)
    BB: $106.77 (106.8 bb)
    UTG: $103.42 (103.4 bb)
    MP: $197.80 (197.8 bb)
    CO: $58.70 (58.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
    2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $8, SB raises to $24, 2 folds, Hero ?




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    Old 06-12-2012, 11:31 PM   #2
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    wager all the chips
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    Old 06-12-2012, 11:38 PM   #3
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    I'd fold to his 4bet. He seems nitty to me.

    I keep calling or 5bet/calling in these spots playing Zoom 100NL and keep going broke over and over.
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    Old 06-13-2012, 01:24 AM   #4
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    You know what? I made a mistake. I thought the open was EP.

    If the open is UTG, then it's a snap fold. If it's the HJ then it's probably close between folding and flatting. But since the open is CO, I'd 5bet this hand preflop. I'd expect a snap fold preflop. If he shoves then I'm not happy about it but I'm calling it off but I highly doubt this.

    I mentioned going broke but it's when the UTG opens and I 3bet and SB/BB 4bets big preflop, that's when I go broke with AK often.
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    Old 06-13-2012, 01:40 AM   #5
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    Get the money in.

    Your button v CO, He has a lot of 4bet bluff in his range, you have AK so 2 card removal, your flipping with QQ. Get it in, pretty easy imo
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    Old 06-13-2012, 01:56 AM   #6
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    its a cold4bet, you guys have seen that? might be closer to a fold against a 19/17
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    Old 06-13-2012, 05:28 AM   #7
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    i fold it
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    Old 06-13-2012, 06:21 AM   #8
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    very easy shove
    the 40% equity we have is easily enough given that he will be 4bet bluffing a decent percentage of the time
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    Old 06-13-2012, 08:12 AM   #9
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    whats you range for shipping here cashy? QQ+ AK?
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    Old 06-13-2012, 08:19 AM   #10
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    Snap it in.
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    Old 06-13-2012, 08:41 AM   #11
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    his sizing is pretty bad with anything and less likely to be a bluff than normal sizing would be. i'd be pretty comfortable folding unless i had a read he had awful sizing or were just really loaded to 4b bluffing 'good' spots.
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    Old 06-13-2012, 09:05 AM   #12
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    why is his sizing sooo awful?
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    Old 06-13-2012, 09:14 AM   #13
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    if we get it in and villain never folds we lose 20$ vs a range of AK+/QQ+
    we win 35$ if villain folds so villain would have to fold about 36% of the time to breakeven

    if you assume villain is only 4betting such a tight range and rarely 4bet/bluffing you can fold but in most circumstances it just isnt the case(people 4bet wider for value and 4bet/bluff quite often)


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    why is his sizing sooo awful?
    he is risking too much chips
    making it smaller would highly increase the profitability of the bluff(bigger sizing isnt increasing FE too much)
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    Old 06-13-2012, 10:45 AM   #14
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    If he's bluffing I think it's fine that he upsized it a few bbs considering we're 129bb deep. Standard $20-22 would get flatted quite a bit I think.
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    Old 06-13-2012, 10:49 AM   #15
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    Re: ZOOM getting cold4bet holding AK (130bb deep)

    call the raise
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