Okay, so I am mostly an MTT player who plays cash usually after busting for a few hours a week tops. I found myself in a weird spot the other night and wanted your opinion.

Private Home Game with $100 MTT running and $1/$1 Cash Game running.

We have only 4 players left at the cash game at this point as it's getting late.

V1 is in SB with about $2K in cash and chips in front of him and he's drunk and still drinking. Nice, social guy, but definitely drunk and looking to gamble. Pushing lots of people off of pots with big bets, but not showing down much of late. I actually just busted about 1/2 hour ago, and I've never played with this dude, so I'm not entirely sure if his wildness is an act and he's got a plan, or if he's just abusing because the money doesn't mean anything to him. I have all the money I brought with me on the table at this point.

V2 is in BB with about $100.00 in front of him.

Hero is UTG with $400.00 in front of me. I am dealt A-10ss

Button has like $300.00 or so, but is older and kinda tight and abuseable.

I open to $8.00 (which has been pretty standard)

Button folds, and both blinds come along.

($24.00 Pot) Flop - A 2 9 r

Both Blinds Check

Hero C-bets $18.00.

Drunk dude jams EVERYTHING into the pot.

V2 calls.

WTF should HERO do here?

Keep in mind that I have all of my money on the table so no reloads for me.

What are all you cash guys doing in this spot? Does the fact that V2 only has $100, meaning I have equity in the remaining $300 against Drunk dude mean this is a snap-call?

Thoughts appreciated.

Thanks.

There are only a few gutshot draws possible here with terrible starting cards. It is kind of insane for V1 to have a worse hand than AT (it also is terrible to play a hand better than AT this way). You're the only one who can judge how drunk he is and how much he is just shoving chips into the pot with less than top pair ok kicker and probably no draw (or not much anyway).

But if you are somewhat ahead of V1 you can obviously call and still be ok with losing to V2. And V2 is much shallower than you. If V1 is shoving a lot of weaker hands, it would be easier for V2 to call with a weaker A than you, so if he is paying attention he could have weaker A's in his range.



I don't think I've ever seen anybody jam 400 big blinds over an 18 big blind cbet into a 24 big blind pot. I've seen people make crazy overraises and have called them at times, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen one half that large .... and this is on a pretty draw empty board.

you say nothing about how they view you

i'm folding with the info you've provided.

Snapfold

+1

Seems like a pretty trivial fold? Even easier once V2 calls.

I suppose if I had AK I would ponder a bit more, but probably even fold that. I mean the guy is risking 392 into a 42 pot. His shove has to work 90% of the time (maybe somewhat less assuming he has some equity when called), so we only have to call the top 10-15% or so of our range.

If we b/c 13 combos (sets and two pairs) on flop. I'm assuming you're prob not cbetting more than 130 combos in that spot. So that definitely represents 10% of our flop cb range.

Thanks for the replies guys. I am quite surprised by the responses, as I half expected to hear that I would be an idiot not to call. I guess I don't know enough about the dynamics of cash games to understand what good, solid exploitive play means against Villains like this.

I mean, I always hear that it's GREAT to have a drunk player at a table spewing away chips, but then I get there and I'm not exactly sure how to exploit when they are playing super crazy.... really hard to figure out where I am at in this spot. I also thought V

So - I folded and V1 showed 8-8 and V2 showed 10-10.

Prolly just being results-oriented...

Thanks again!

Wowza lol... I wouldn't have expected those hands at all.

Again readless this is a fold. Obviously if you were at the table longer and had seen villain shove deep some complete nonsense etc, that could change the decision quite a lot.

The tables' read on me is prolly solid, but a bit gambly...... Nothing too too crazy though, so I'd just say solid. Only about 1/2 hour or so, but I had opened prolly 50% of pots since sitting down (mostly IP), and felt like I was bet/folding and bet/calling in good spots, but it was only 5-handed so hard to tell what they think of that...... dynamics of 5 handed NL hold'em probably blurrs the line between agro and solid a bit.....right?

Yeah, I was gonna say that I did have a feeling that V2 was thinking the same thing I was thinking - that V1 was FOS - and that his call didn't necessarily mean strength, but alas, I didn't have the guts or the read to follow-through.

Fun night though to be sure........ You cash guys would have loved it.

V2s call is pretty horrible imo. The only or most likely "bluff" I can see even a crazy lagg having on such a dry board like that is 9x, and V2 doesn't even beat that. Not to mention that he's calling with you as the PFR still to act behind.

Fold seems standard here