No. Pretty sure I am more objective about your right/wrong ratio than you are

It doesn't matter if people can do EV calcs as long as enough people don't do it because they are too lazy or "don't like math". That's the whole reason why doing it is profitable, because relative to the field you'll be ahead.
Angelo's reciprocality and all.

Assumptions are math in my opinions.

a balanced 4b flatting range ip exploits nearly all ssnl regs imo

also who really wants to fold 86s after 3betting it? not me

I think Bilbo's point is that you can do all of the EV calcs you want, but if you have incorrect ranges plugged in then they will essentially be useless. Obviously there is some degree of math in developing ranges(combinatorics) but the majority of it is making logical decisions based on what you expect your opponent to due with all of the different parts of their range.

My take on flatting 4 bets 100bbs deep. Terrible OOP with just about all hands. IP you can flat strong hands with the right dynamic(you think the opponent is going to monkey in $ just about all the time with his air hands that he would fold to your shove PF) but flatting weak speculative hands is completely burning $. If you think your opponent is FOS enough to try and flat 86s, you might as well just jam expecting a lot of FE. The hands flops way too terribly in a situation where the SPR is going to be like 1:1.5

200+ BBs deep you can flat a lot more 4 bets and that can get really fun because a 4 bet pot 200+ BBs deep essentially plays like a 3 bet pot 100bbs deep so you have a little more maneuverability.

BalugaWhale,
Do you still do a lot of coaching? Still make videos for DC? When's the last time you played poker? Good results? I guess you beat msnl+ without pt3/hem? So you can't share graphs of your results? Can you show that you still make money at this game? A lot of questions? I'm Ron Burgundy?

TheRick

Yes, Yes, yesterday, lost $300, probably, no, probably not.

Andrew

If the guy 4bet bluffs a very wide range I like to call with some premiums and speculative hands if I think he's going to make some sizeable mistakes postflop. But overall, I think it's just not that necessary to add to your game as I don't think it's going to add that much more money to you (not saying we should pass up some money but there's some other part;s of your game that you can improve which will yield better results).

this but also as mentioned also, even if someone has a sample for HEM it will be no where near enough. even if you hood in this spot often, over a million hands it maybe comes up what, 1000 times AT MOST, which is no where near a large enough sample. also you'd have to compare it to the winrate of folding (above) and also the winrate of 5b those non tt/ak hands. also a hand like aq i way different to say T7s so just saying non tt/ak is probably not ideal but i guess can't do much better than that given how specific the situation already is.

bump

Never calling 4bets makes it fairly trivial to exploit you.

Interestingly, it's fairly easy to exploit you by doing what most people do (which is 4bet polarized).

you mean 3-bet polarized?