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| Small Stakes PL/NL Discussions regarding small stakes pot and no-limit hold'em (50c-1 to 1-2) |
03-19-2010, 12:23 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by Stackajawea
I'd say it would be regs taking lines/choosing betsizes that are 95% value or 95% bluffs
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Some hand examples of this would be nice to illustrate it.
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03-19-2010, 01:43 PM
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#77
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,015
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
uncontrolled aggression
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03-19-2010, 02:22 PM
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#78
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,815
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
3betting too light out of the blinds vs a good button opener
edit: too light for value I mean
Last edited by Tickner; 03-19-2010 at 02:48 PM.
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03-19-2010, 05:08 PM
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#79
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: bkk
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
worrying too much about grinding out hands
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03-19-2010, 07:52 PM
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#80
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
tillllt
Take X dollars lost to tilt and added it to the end of each month. Then take that number and figure out your BB/100 rate.
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03-19-2010, 10:37 PM
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#81
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Da burgh
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
Some great stuff here. Particuarly like clowntables list. Thanks for that and Vancouver for the idea.
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03-19-2010, 10:42 PM
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#82
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by visoring!
yeah i keep like 125 online and play for a living, bankroll nit!
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Do you think keeping your entire roll online is a good idea? My FT account got hacked and from now on I am not keeping it all online. Just enough of a cushion to cover my worst week ever. Maybe 30 buyins as opposed to a full 100. How I would like that to be in that situation though
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03-19-2010, 11:25 PM
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#83
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2009
Location: former winner of flips
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stackajawea
I'd say it would be regs taking lines/choosing betsizes that are 95% value or 95% bluffs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin99
Some hand examples of this would be nice to illustrate it.
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95% bluff line
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
CO: $162.45
BTN: $219.75
Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $54.85
UTG: $100.00
MP: $104.20
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A  Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, BTN calls $8
Flop: ($23.00) 3  6  K (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, BTN raises to $25, Hero raises to $89 all in, BTN folds
Final Pot: $73.00
Hero mucks A  Q 
Hero wins $71.00
(Rake: $2.00)
95% value line
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $145.25
SB: $136.80
BB: $115.35
Hero (UTG): $102.00
CO: $139.15
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with J  K
Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($13.00) 9  J  5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, CO calls $8, SB folds
Turn: ($29.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO raises to $50, Hero folds
Final Pot: $73.00
CO wins $71.00
(Rake: $2.00)
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03-19-2010, 11:33 PM
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#84
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: growing old battling the donks
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by bluffguff
Do you think keeping your entire roll online is a good idea? My FT account got hacked and from now on I am not keeping it all online. Just enough of a cushion to cover my worst week ever. Maybe 30 buyins as opposed to a full 100. How I would like that to be in that situation though
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Speaking of leaks, all major sites have an RSA security token, and it is definitely a leak not to have one if you keep a reasonable amount of money online.
I like stackajawea's examples, lack of balance is still huge at small stakes, not like at micros where it's just "bet if you have it, check if you don't" but people are still quite unbalanced.
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03-20-2010, 01:02 AM
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 863
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stackajawea
95% bluff line
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
CO: $162.45
BTN: $219.75
Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $54.85
UTG: $100.00
MP: $104.20
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A  Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, BTN calls $8
Flop: ($23.00) 3  6  K (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, BTN raises to $25, Hero raises to $89 all in, BTN folds
Final Pot: $73.00
Hero mucks A  Q 
Hero wins $71.00
(Rake: $2.00)
95% value line
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $145.25
SB: $136.80
BB: $115.35
Hero (UTG): $102.00
CO: $139.15
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with J  K
Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($13.00) 9  J  5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, CO calls $8, SB folds
Turn: ($29.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO raises to $50, Hero folds
Final Pot: $73.00
CO wins $71.00
(Rake: $2.00)
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I agree with those spots though i think in general 95% is higher than the actuall value.
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03-20-2010, 01:05 AM
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#86
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
A lot of good posts in the thread, but I think the key that kind of brings everything together is having a general, over all strategy for your game.
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03-20-2010, 01:10 AM
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#87
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by wdead
3b OOP too often
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Probably but it doesn't really bite you in the ass at SSNL. It will when you move up to MSNL though.
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03-20-2010, 01:14 AM
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#88
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by spivey
Probably but it doesn't really bite you in the ass at SSNL. It will when you move up to MSNL though.
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people still 3bet oop too much at msnl tho imo.
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03-20-2010, 02:55 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,333
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
betsizing tells
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03-20-2010, 02:59 AM
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#90
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,247
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Re: What's the biggest leaks at 100NL & 200NL?
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Originally Posted by jackwilcox
people still 3bet oop too much at msnl tho imo.
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people open the button too much!
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