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| Small Stakes PL/NL Discussions regarding small stakes pot and no-limit hold'em (50c-1 to 1-2) |
12-15-2007, 10:56 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: salisbury, md
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valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
villain is 42/8/2.74/2.15/2.75(437). riv aggression factor seems high but that is the worst river evar imo.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
judaz (BB): $504.50
Junak (UTG): $90.50
a breath of air (MP): $248.25
black midge (CO): $67.90
HomeRow (BTN): $200
stankmouth (SB): $197.65
Pre-Flop: K  A  dealt to a breath of air (MP)
Junak folds, a breath of air raises to $8, 2 folds, stankmouth calls $7, judaz folds
Flop: ($18) J  6  A  (2 Players)
stankmouth checks, a breath of air bets $14, stankmouth calls $14
Turn: ($46) 9  (2 Players)
stankmouth checks, a breath of air bets $35, stankmouth calls $35
River: ($116) K  (2 Players)
stankmouth bets $50
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12-15-2007, 11:01 PM
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#2
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: MARRY ME!!!
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
calclalclaclalcalclalcalclaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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12-16-2007, 06:45 PM
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#3
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: salisbury, md
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
lol anyone else?
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12-16-2007, 07:02 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: noitacol
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
so the question is between calling and raising right? I think calling is correct.
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12-16-2007, 07:06 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
Just call imo
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12-16-2007, 07:27 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Kuala Lumpur
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
God I so wanna shove this and be shown A7 but since villain's a fish he could be scared of the flush and bet his straight/set here this weak so I just call.
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12-16-2007, 07:39 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
i def call.
more interesting is if he bets $80-$100.
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12-16-2007, 07:45 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: captain of team fold
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho
i think i just call too, it's close though
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12-16-2007, 08:33 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: living off rakeback and marijuana
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaby
full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho
i think i just call too, it's close though
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why is this a significant leak? b/c he would essentially call up to pot or to protect?
Just call river.
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12-16-2007, 08:37 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaby
full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho
i think i just call too, it's close though
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Quote:
Originally Posted by runfor1
why is this a significant leak? b/c he would essentially call up to pot or to protect?
Just call river.
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this guys pf stats indicate he's prob a calling station, and TPTK is a monster against his range, so full pot bets will generally maximize our value.
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12-17-2007, 02:51 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: salisbury, md
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
lol i folded
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12-17-2007, 02:52 PM
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#12
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: salisbury, md
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
call seems best. it just seems that this is how he would play all his draws that got there imo.
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12-17-2007, 03:13 PM
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 916
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
yea, but for < 1/2 pot bet, i think you are good enough for when he has a weak A, or KJ, or whatever here.
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12-17-2007, 03:15 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 994
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
Yeah you gotta pay off here, pretty easy call. He could easily be chasing a worse 2-pair hand that got there and he makes it cheap if you are beat. I can never fold here.
I think your bet sizes are fine, but betting a little more is also fine.
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12-17-2007, 03:23 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 990
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv
Call is the only option for me
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