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Old 12-15-2007, 10:56 PM   #1
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Diamond valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

villain is 42/8/2.74/2.15/2.75(437). riv aggression factor seems high but that is the worst river evar imo.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

judaz (BB): $504.50
Junak (UTG): $90.50
a breath of air (MP): $248.25
black midge (CO): $67.90
HomeRow (BTN): $200
stankmouth (SB): $197.65

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to a breath of air (MP)
Junak folds, a breath of air raises to $8, 2 folds, stankmouth calls $7, judaz folds

Flop: ($18) J 6 A (2 Players)
stankmouth checks, a breath of air bets $14, stankmouth calls $14

Turn: ($46) 9 (2 Players)
stankmouth checks, a breath of air bets $35, stankmouth calls $35

River: ($116) K (2 Players)
stankmouth bets $50
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:01 PM   #2
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

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Old 12-16-2007, 06:45 PM   #3
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

lol anyone else?
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:02 PM   #4
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

so the question is between calling and raising right? I think calling is correct.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:06 PM   #5
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

Just call imo
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:27 PM   #6
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

God I so wanna shove this and be shown A7 but since villain's a fish he could be scared of the flush and bet his straight/set here this weak so I just call.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:39 PM   #7
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

i def call.

more interesting is if he bets $80-$100.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:45 PM   #8
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho

i think i just call too, it's close though
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:33 PM   #9
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

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full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho

i think i just call too, it's close though
why is this a significant leak? b/c he would essentially call up to pot or to protect?

Just call river.
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:37 PM   #10
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

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full pot on flop and turn plz, pretty significant leak imho

i think i just call too, it's close though
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why is this a significant leak? b/c he would essentially call up to pot or to protect?

Just call river.
this guys pf stats indicate he's prob a calling station, and TPTK is a monster against his range, so full pot bets will generally maximize our value.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:51 PM   #11
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

lol i folded
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:52 PM   #12
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

call seems best. it just seems that this is how he would play all his draws that got there imo.
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:13 PM   #13
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

yea, but for < 1/2 pot bet, i think you are good enough for when he has a weak A, or KJ, or whatever here.
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:15 PM   #14
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Re: valuetowning donk, draws get there and he donks riv

Yeah you gotta pay off here, pretty easy call. He could easily be chasing a worse 2-pair hand that got there and he makes it cheap if you are beat. I can never fold here.

I think your bet sizes are fine, but betting a little more is also fine.
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:23 PM   #15
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Call is the only option for me
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