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Two pair gets shoved on on river 200bb deep. Tilt ensues. Two pair gets shoved on on river 200bb deep. Tilt ensues.

09-05-2014 , 09:07 PM
I haven't done anything too stupid but I am sure I am seen as an aggro monkey.

Running 35/21/2.4 for the session which is only 50 or so hands old.
0 history with villain running. He got his stack by getting AhJh vs K10 on 9h8h10x flop and binking the Qh on turn. Nothing else of notice.

Comments on all streets appreciated. River???





    Party, $0.50/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: $50 (100 bb)
    BTN: $206.18 (412.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $202.31 (404.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 5
    BTN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

    Flop: ($9) 7 2 Q (3 players)
    Hero bets $6.37, BB calls $6.37, BTN calls $6.37

    Turn: ($28.11) 5 (3 players)
    Hero bets $19.91, BB folds, BTN calls $19.91

    River: ($67.93) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $50, BTN raises to $176.90 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $167.93 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: 7 2 Q 5 9
    BTN mucked and won $165.93 ($86.65 net)
    09-05-2014 , 09:59 PM
    Haven't really given too much thought to a donking range here but if I had to guess 75 probably doesn't belong in it. It maybe close I guess depending on buttons range.

    Edit: I think the river fold is probably fine but checking may be better since all the draws bricked.

    Last edited by just_grindin; 09-05-2014 at 10:09 PM.
    09-06-2014 , 05:12 AM
    Gotta fold here, bluffs aren't a huge part of his range as villain isn't a shove station as you may think he is based off his prior hand, (he got his money in as 60% fav)
    09-06-2014 , 11:28 AM
    I fold pre in SB with 75s if BTN is not a fish.
    09-06-2014 , 06:41 PM
    3b/fold preflop

    fold river unless hes changing everything into a bluff
    09-07-2014 , 02:29 AM
    i feel like villains top range is 22 77 QQ and 22 should be scared and just call and QQ has a lot of reasons to raise the turn leaving very little for his range on this river where the draw misses

    also, is there a good reason to donk flop here?
    09-07-2014 , 11:18 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by patatepowa
    i feel like villains top range is 22 77 QQ and 22 should be scared and just call and QQ has a lot of reasons to raise the turn leaving very little for his range on this river where the draw misses

    also, is there a good reason to donk flop here?
    Ok results I noticed in OP. The reason I say tilt ensues is because I didn't realize I had 0 time on my timebank and literally had 10 secs or so to decided and I was ready to hit the call button my hand got folded.

    Now here is why I was going to call. The only hands he plays this way for value are QQ/77/22. I think we can all agree on that. I have a 7 therefore blah blah less likely 77. 22/QQ make up a big part of his range. I think a ton of the time though after a bet and a call he will raise this flop to get more money from tons of Qs/flushdraws.

    Even if he tries to slow play I think he will get more money in on turn as we are both 200bb deep which is even more reason to raise flop with QQ and 22.

    Now that I look at the hand again I think the hand that most likely makes the most sense is 99. He will float a ton on flop and turn because I can have a flush draw that is being played aggressively.

    I still think this is a call because maybe he just spazzed out with a flush draw himself. Or AA/KK etc.
    09-07-2014 , 04:48 PM
    preflop fine lead good call river
    09-08-2014 , 02:07 AM
    As played b/f river is fine

    flop and Pre are questionable
    09-08-2014 , 04:17 AM
    River c/c?
    09-14-2014 , 02:07 PM
    3-bet or fold pre.

    Not a good hand to lead at all, even if you have a leading range on this board which would be a strategy I don't use in this spot, so not going to comment any further. Hand plays reasonable as a x/c OTF

    As played turn is fine.

    Super easy river x/c, he's not calling much worse (some strong Qx only, I'd guess only AQ) and we can't call a shove, but all the draws bricked so we can get value from them as a bluffcatcher.
    09-14-2014 , 10:13 PM
    isn't this kind of a really good spot for villain to shove river? the hero donking range isn't likely to contain sets because sets would want to try and set up playing for stacks somehow, right? that's not likely to happen by donk/donk/donk which makes our range heavily weighted towards some solid one pair hands and draws. after the river bricks, it's just so unlikely the hero has improved off his initial donking range while the villain can rep some slow plays. should be a ton of fold equity shoving here from villains POV, no?
    09-14-2014 , 10:54 PM
    lots of sets donk donk donk.
    09-15-2014 , 01:03 AM
    was a 6bb btn open standard? i prob fold to it. flop lead is okay, river fold good.

    also just want to say that QQ is not the top of btn's range, he definitely has at least 1 combo of 86.

    e: wait is this 50nl or 100?
    09-15-2014 , 05:05 PM
    Probably none of u realized it was a 6x open pre
    09-15-2014 , 11:43 PM
    I assumed this was 100nl
    09-16-2014 , 01:32 PM
    Quote:
    BTN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2
    .
    09-17-2014 , 12:59 PM
    This is 100nl and it was not a 6 raise.
    09-17-2014 , 09:40 PM
    Tough spot for sure. Really depends on btn range. Set or donk hit flush possibility, or just some guy with balls.
    09-18-2014 , 09:00 AM
    Pre is fine, I wouldn't lead flop but whatever, maybe its ok

    We have a pretty good bluffcatcher otr vs an aggro guy
    09-18-2014 , 10:24 AM
    Flop and river bets are questionable.
    As played fold.

          
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