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04-26-2017 , 07:31 PM

morerakeplz

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It was vs a reg. I had played HU with him and he seemed not very aggressive. I just dont think hes bluffing enough here, what do you think?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37712824

BB: $51.14 (102.3 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
CO: $48 (96 bb)
BTN: $62.25 (124.5 bb)
SB: $22.42 (44.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $2.50, BB raises to $7.50, Hero calls $6.25, SB calls $5

Flop: ($22.50) 3

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $5.63, Hero calls $5.63, SB calls $5.63

Turn: ($39.39) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $11.70, Hero calls $11.70, SB folds

River: ($62.79) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $26.31 and is all-in, Hero folds

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04-26-2017 , 09:09 PM

Minatorr

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Have stats on his PFR/3b %?

I expect his range here pre to be AQ+/1010+, with the bottom of his range (AQo/1010) slightly discounted. I think all options pre are fine, with folding being slightly worse than jamming or calling.

Postflop seems fine.

04-27-2017 , 03:05 AM

DarkMagus

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Villain's play is super weird here.. why is he betting like 1/4 pot on flop and turn if he's got a big hand. Not that it's impossible, maybe he's trying to look weak or whatever, but in a 3way pot you'd think he wouldn't want to let someone draw so cheaply.

I'd probably call it off getting better than 3:1 on the river. If you aren't comfortable playing for stacks here, what are you doing cold calling the 4bet pre?

04-27-2017 , 11:37 AM

sesh_bot

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Given that we have an egg of a player in the small blind and this could easily be a squeeze, I'm 4 bet / calling off here. The way he bet post flop I'm guess he must be v. Strong by river. As we block kings maybe Axs if I had to guess. Especially as JJ would probably not want clubs to get there as previous poster said.

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04-27-2017 , 03:31 PM

DarkMagus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sesh_bot

sb 3bet (although small) so this is not really a squeeze

either you think BB's 4bet is super strong and you should be folding pre, or you think there's some bluffs in his range and should be doing something different postflop. like his postflop betting is weird and it's super tempting to think he's gotta have a monster, and your hand looks a lot like AK. but with the odds you're getting on river, you only need to pick off a bluff 23% of the time to make this a call. he can also maybe occasionally be doing this with AK himself (not likely but possible).

04-27-2017 , 08:18 PM

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Raise flop, raise turn. I don't even mind 5-betting pre. Calling IP is fine though. As played, call river. Between splits, bluffs and even maybe some worse VB like KQ, you have plenty of equity there.

04-28-2017 , 11:16 AM

Loder89

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looks good to me. What does raising Flop or Turn accomplish?

04-28-2017 , 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loder89

looks good to me. What does raising Flop or Turn accomplish?

Well, it gets it in with the best hand instead of calling 1/4 pot sized bets. Makes villain pay for his draws and weaker range, instead of call call fold.

04-29-2017 , 01:15 AM

dillchips

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flop bet looks way too small tbh r/c flop

04-29-2017 , 01:24 AM

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Minatorr

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Yeah I think raising flop/turn is okay

04-30-2017 , 11:23 AM

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Loder89

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

Well, it gets it in with the best hand instead of calling 1/4 pot sized bets. Makes villain pay for his draws and weaker range, instead of call call fold.

What kind of Draws are you talking about? The BB comes in for a cold 4bet. It is not like he will show up with a lot of SCs... Sure it was a tiny 3bet by SB, but the BB will have a strong Range, maybe TT+ AQ+, and maybe the occasional suitec Ace and that's already somewhat optimistic.

Seems like you guys overlooked the Preflop action. There is also a player behind that we should consider. Once the BB fires the Turn aswell after getting two callers he should be even stronger...

04-30-2017 , 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loder89

I did misread that SB only has 45bbs. I thought he was at 100. Otherwise a cold 4-bet in that spot as a squeeze is still going to have a fairly wide range. Him committing SB here changes his range a lot. My bad. It's flips OP's equity to only as high as ~ 40% vs his range.

04-30-2017 , 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Loder89

It's not so much that I overlooked the preflop action. Just that if we can't commit on this board, we should be just folding pre. Unless we've got a specific read that we can outplay the crap out of him postflop, but it doesn't seem we have that.

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