Villain is a fish running at 31/11 over 41 hands, haven't noticed anything about his post-flop play.

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SB: $23.10
BB: $62.35
UTG: $47
Hero (CO): $351
BTN: $191.55

Pre-Flop: 9 8 dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $5, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($37) 8 5 6 (3 Players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10, BTN folds

Turn: ($57) 5 (2 Players)
BB bets $40.35 and is All-In, Hero calls $40.35




Villain is a fish running at 21/8 over 40 hands, havent noticed anything about his postflop play either.

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SB: $131.35
BB: $212
UTG: $156.45
Hero (CO): $522
BTN: $80.80

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 9 4 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $14, BTN raises to $73.80 and is All-In, Hero calls $59.80

Thoughts on the calls?

both are superstandard

I'd make the second one with AK high pbb

Let me guess, you lost both hands.

both are standard although i don't look him up with A high in the 2nd one

Are you saying both are standard? I don't think they are automatic calls but whatever I'd be interested in hearing some thoughts, remember that I had not noticed anything abnormal about their post-flop play (small sample but mega fish obv make themselves known pretty fast).

obv not looking him up with A high but Im sure poster felt pretty radical making that statement.

I fold the first one on the turn

in hand 1 you are pretty much priced in to call his min3bet and also priced in to call his weak flop bet with your top pair + gutshot

so calling his turn shove is the only semi difficult decision. it is less than pot so you need about 30% equity vs his range


you have 25% or a bit more equity against QQ+, AKs. so it is a marginal fold if he has that tight a range.

given that his range is likely much larger, you have to call here

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thats assuming he shoves ak high which isnt necessarily a correct assumption and by widening his range a bit id have to include TT or JJ as the most likely first additions to his range which isnt good. The reason I called the first 1 on the turn is cause in my experience these players just jam flops with their overpairs.

i only put out AKs and 1/4 of the time he has the NFD which he will be shoving all the time

thinking about the hand more, it would be a much easier call except for the horrible turncard that counterfeits our 2 pair outs

when i say his range is wider i mean that donks usally have massively polarized 3betting ranges so i think after QQ+, AKs the next hand that he might add could well be JTs or something funky like that. ok, i see JJ also being 3bet, but after that he is calling with alot of hands like KQ or TT

Second hand is a fist-pump call, villain can show basically any pair here.

First hand is pretty close I think. Preflop and flop are standard, but I think more than likely we are drawing to six outs, by the time he shoves the turn.

To be honest I'm finding it hard to put villain on a range his preflop play screams like a big pair (or AK) but sometimes you'll see a fish do this with absolute rubbish. I think he plays most of his preflop range like this (if he did raise with K6s it wasn't to check fold the turn). I think what happened in the two/three hands before this is relevant here. If villain recently lost a big pot I'd probably call, otherwise, a 31/11 doesn't min-3bet without the goods often enough to justify the call.

I'd fold the turn on the first

And obviously snap call the second.

uuuummm, no, i make calls like this a lot

i didn't say 'ace high' i said 'AK high' for a reason

villains can shove highcards here a lot, and our equity vs highcards/pairs is a lot better with AK then it is with lets say A7

these are 2 calls i made yesterday, not too brag like you seem to think, but to show you the hands villains can have ... i keep making calls like this bc they have highcards a rather large amount of the time

this is not the place to argue about whether the hands are played well or not (had a read in the first, none in the second) but you'd be suprised how much certainly hand 2 are highcards ...

192$ eff

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to oo_kaby[Kh Ah]
HeatBlood raises to $14.00
heinzl50 calls $14.00
lecureuil folds
tentalt folds
Superuser363 folds
oo_kaby raises to $62.00
HeatBlood folds
heinzl50 calls $48.00
*** FLOP *** [6s 9h Ts]
oo_kaby checks
heinzl50 bets $134.30 and is all-in
oo_kaby calls $134.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
oo_kaby shows [Kh Ah]
heinzl50 shows [Ac Js]

170$ eff

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to oo_kaby [As Qs]
geronimo95 folds
Carlos1313 raises to $14.00
Tomaz21 folds
oo_kaby raises to $48.00
doudou70 calls $46.00
n@a folds
Carlos1313 calls $34.00
*** FLOP *** [7d 6h 6s]
doudou70 bets $120.41 and is all-in
Carlos1313 folds
oo_kaby calls $120.41
*** SHOW DOWN ***
doudou70 shows [Jc Kd]
oo_kaby shows [As Qs]


too lazy to do the math right now but i don't think villain needs to shove highcards a high % of the time to make calling AK in hand 2 from OP +ev

Those hands are completely different as their 3 bet pots (and with presumably TAGs) - not some infantile ****** that bought in short.

folding the first one wouldn't be bad

I fold turn in hand 1, snapcall hand 2.

vs this range, calling hand 2 from op is +ev

randomly clicked a lot of 9s, some fours some trees, the OESD, some shoves with highcards, and J7 for the ******ed bluff

Board: 9d 4c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.818% 36.66% 00.16% 918990 3924.00 { AKo }
Hand 1: 63.182% 63.03% 00.16% 1579842 3924.00 { TT-22, AJs, A9s, KJs+, K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s, 96s+, 74s, 64s+, 54s, 43s, AQo, A9o, KQo, K9o, QJo, Q9o, J9o, J7o, T9o, 74o, 64o+, 43o }

it might be close but calling AK certainly is not a big mistake in hand 2 imho

ya

If we get to the flop in H1, why arent we shoving?


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Board: 8h 5d 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.113% 49.89% 01.05% 993949 20999.00 { 9c8d }
Hand 1: 53.887% 58.48% 01.05% 1165054 20999.00 { 77+, AQs+, KQs }

I really don't like this play, by just calling the flop, he's still shoving his fds on the turn and sometimes his pure garbage and now we have better equity against his draws obviously, I think flop is a standard call (especially with 1 person behind us).

ahhhh didnt see there was someone behind us. Carry on

I agree. Decisions come up that are so close it's what I have seen referred to as a "meh" spot. Calling or folding AK in a spot like hand 2 is not a huge mistake ether way.

Sounds like you believed the first hand to be an easy call.

Personally, I call on both hands. Weak players show up with all kinds of crap when they make a leading shove.

fold the 1st on the turn, snap the second