Hi,BB in my opinion will be raise monster very often, is it overbet on turn good idea? is it the sizing good? is small or big? why? when is the right moment to shove on river? which cards do you shove? thanks for reply

Hand Information
, 1 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 hero ($100) Small Blind
Seat: 3 villain ($99) Big Blind
Seat: 5 seat 5 ($100)
Seat: 6 seat 6 ($100)
Seat: 8 seat 8 ($100)
Seat: 10 seat 10 ($100) Dealer
Dealt to


Preflop (Pot:1.5)
seat 5****FOLD
seat 6****FOLD
seat 8****FOLD
seat 10****FOLD
hero****RAISE $2.5
villain****CALL

Flop(Pot: $6.5)
***

hero****BET $3.5
villain****CALL

Turn(Pot: $13.5)
****

hero****BET $18
villain****CALL

River(Pot: $49.5)
****X???

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Yes turn is good spot to over bet most V c/r strong hands otf.

Imo 3x pre from SB, you're going to get abused 2.5x'ing.

I dont overbet turns ever really, mostly just rivers.

Turn overbet seems reasonable since most raise strong hands 2pr+ otf and combo draws. Fwiw I flat some two pair on this flop, but that's just me. Prob K8/98, which against a GII range isn't doing too well. And it's good to have hands that can call down basically almost any runout and have nutted hands in a call-down range because BB has a pretty decent range disadvantage. Also it's good to have two pair because if he checks turn/river we can overbet/get over max value because we underrepped our hand otf (done this once BvB and got paid by weak KJ iirc)

yes its a good spot to bet big...i dont go crazy but pot or a little more is ok

On the river we bet big on blanks J,6,5,4,3 and pairing of 8, 9 or 2. They are bad bluff cards - they don't help us often...but they dont help opponent. we get called light, so we can bet very big as light as perhaps KQ and balance it with bluffs.

str8 or flush id bet a standard size. overbet ranges get narrower when opponent has nutted hands too, especially deep. So i dont bother though i know a small part of my range could be overbet.

overbet or bet ranges can get narrow also when we have too much strength and not enough good bluffs.

I'm not sure what the size of the pot is. Pot size otf says $6.50 but that's impossible. It should be $6 or $5 depending if that raise to $2.5 is with or without the sb.

That glaring detail aside, lol. Might as well ask how to play poker with those questions you ask in the OP. Oh wait, you've been doing that for a few weeks now with these beginner-micro threads. If you're actually playing $100nl (which I find extremely unlikely), take a buy-in and invest in Run It Once or take 10% of a buy-in and get the essential version of RIO. Or if you're really a big baller, join Upswing Poker because they have an entire course on overbetting.

thanks all for reply but I have a question now, my question is WHY? why overbet? it dont make sense with value like sets because oponents range is weak so he will fold often and we are loose value.

do you overbet with monster and bluffs or with hands like K-Q too? thanks

You overbet when you have a crazy range advantage and want to bet a wider range with more bluffs. Basically villain's options are very limited to call and pay off or fold a bunch.

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What should be the ratio between value:bluff on turn?

Btw we will be x/r all monster or not?

That will be based on what your bet size is and what your plan is for the river. If you get called. It will also depend on how you classify value hands and bluffs before the river.
If you think this is a good spot to over bet would it not make sense that it would be a bad spot to check (i.e. is villain going to bet with a range that allows you to overbet)?


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Please give an example about the bet size and how you classify value and bluffs


How I know which spot is good for check and which for bet on flop?

Thanks so much for reply

Have you ever seen the AKQ toy game that addresses betting ratios?

Basically on the river you should bet a value to bluff ratio that is identical to the odds offered to your opponent.

You can do the same thing on earlier streets but a hands still have equity so it's not as clear cut as it is on the river.

Some people lump bluffs on one street into "value bets" on the previous street to work out betting ratios before the river. The logic is that a bluff on the turn makes as much as a value bet on the flop does on the turn (i.e. pot). Study Matt Janda's work for more details. Pretty bad explanation by me.




That is flop and opponent dependent. You're basically asking me to teach you the entirety of poker strategy with is impossible to do in a single post.


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I have meant some basic rules to I know how to start.
for example I am decide according to this rules:
1. villain has big stab
2. according to my default range divided by bet, check, x/f, x/r(not on dry board)

and now when is beter bet on flop and overbet on turn? I think always when we have an initiative and flop is drawy because if villain only calls on drawy flop he has capped range.

question:
1. we have to overbet top and merged range/blufs or only top/bluffs?
2. what is on my logic bad?
thank you so much for reply

I agree with this, your basically asking very general questions, as if the specific strategy on the board vs EVERYONE is going to work, POKER doesn't work that way, your looking for the red easy button, unfortunately poker is tougher than that.

ok for example:





+It would be good info that villain raises monsters on flop of course

is it correct play for you? thanks

you dont actually have to have the nuts to overbet. you need something that is most likely good and a strong enough range advantage that the other person cant shove over top of you and punish you for betting thin.

if you can figure out when you have a range advantage and a hand that is most likely good you can fire a lot of big value bets and bluffs without waiting for the nuts. we get far more hands that are middling in value than the nuts, if you can figure out when your middling hand is good the opponent is going to be facing a whole lot of bets that they arent comfortable calling. i think the goal should be to make teh opponent cringe and say to themself....damn thats not what i was hoping for.

first hand i wouldnt overbet because im blocking top 2 and when the ace flush is on the flop we dont have enough flush or str8 bluffs to support it. Id bet normal on the turn but bomb the river because hes going to have an ace or a busted draw, and we are only making money from the ace. basiclly when the ace is blocking the flush im going smaller flop and turn but on the river just hammer it.

second hand. its fine I dont like Q hi flops that much. you have nice equity and decent fold equity. i wouldnt bother but its surely ok if you want to randomize it.

third one...checkraise this on the flop everytime. you dont get this situation too often dont think about overbetting you need to checkraise it, size the turn to shove it in on the river. . all your small backdoors / gutters should be put to the felt if they turn more equity.. not sometimes. every single one and empty the clip, otherwise you wont have enough to balance your sets. Then your going to be slowplaying sets and wondering in bewilderment why they arent getting called.