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02-25-2016 , 03:14 AM

#201

pontylad

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,714

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Originally Posted by Don Melchor

I talk to him from time to time, 100% no bot

I mean, I had conversations with romulaz on here too. Some of this guys stats are super super sketchy/similar to those currently banned players.

Last edited by pontylad; 02-25-2016 at 03:44 AM.

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02-25-2016 , 04:26 AM

#202

woolly

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,107

find it amazing people are capable of playing ssnl+ professionally and still believe that if a player chats he/she is not a bot

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02-25-2016 , 10:35 AM

#203

TR7isBetterThanU

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 270

KarP93 ?

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02-25-2016 , 11:10 AM

#204

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

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Originally Posted by woolly

find it amazing people are capable of playing ssnl+ professionally and still believe that if a player chats he/she is not a bot

I find it amazing that some peoples egos are so overinflated that they are absolutely unable to see how bad tis is.

They just banned/suspended a list of 30 players who are/were with almost 100% certainty bots. There are open bot forums and solvers free to use for anyone and all you come up with is your usual yadayada if you cant beat teh games...

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02-25-2016 , 11:22 AM

#205

SpinMeRightRound

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,723

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Originally Posted by TimStone

To be fair, if you stopped misspelling the word 'the' and 'more' like a 12 year old little girl, people would take what you say more seriously.

On a more general point, bots are a huge issue. The usual excuse is 'lol bots are terrible, they are easily beatable'. That might have been the case 5 years ago, but bots are getting more and more sophisticated. Within the next 5 years, bots will be able to play better than the best humans. Any ssnl grinder should plan on an exit strategy from online poker asap, before it's too late.

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02-25-2016 , 11:34 AM

#206

TimStone

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

. Any ssnl grinder should plan on an exit strategy from online poker asap, before it's too late.

Here i strongly disagree.

Anybody who isnt absolutely destroying 1k+ should already be working on an exit unless he's fine for working like 50k/y in 2019

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02-25-2016 , 11:38 AM

#207

SpinMeRightRound

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,723

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Originally Posted by TimStone

Here i strongly disagree.

Anybody who isnt absolutely destroying 1k+ should already be working on an exit unless he's fine for working like 50k/y in 2019

So you agree with me - you agree that a ssnl grinder should be working on an exit strategy. I made no mention of msnl grinders in my post, so there is nothing you can disagree with me on that.

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02-25-2016 , 12:16 PM

#208

Dr.FatCat

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,082

I think he disagrees anyway

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02-25-2016 , 12:27 PM

#209

doctor877

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 3,062

This **** is so depressing when I'm only just planning my entry into the pokerworld as a pro. Well guess I'll have atleast a year of midstakes before things go to ****.

Gotta get my foot into that game where you have 4 cards, luckily I hear finns get an extra +2bb/100 at the 4 card game for being a finn.

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02-25-2016 , 03:03 PM

#210

woolly

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,107

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Originally Posted by TimStone

I find it amazing that some peoples egos are so overinflated that they are absolutely unable to see how bad tis is.

wish this site had the crying with laughter emoticon

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02-25-2016 , 04:01 PM

#211

Don Melchor

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,662

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Originally Posted by pontylad

I mean, I had conversations with romulaz on here too. Some of this guys stats are super super sketchy/similar to those currently banned players.

I meant on skype, I know what youre saying so cant be 100% sure, but Im very confident about it anyways

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02-26-2016 , 12:06 AM

#212

TimStone

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Originally Posted by doctor877

People claiming pretty much since i started in 2009 that PLO is teh next big thing and its not. Teh rake is an absolute disaster. And while ur edge is certainly bigger than in NL Rio and others working hard to change that and once u have thin edges while paying 10bb/100 rake glgl

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02-26-2016 , 02:40 AM

#213

MiguelPicard

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 330

z100 NLHE on stars is easier in 2016 then it was in 2015, but I still have my suspicious on some players:

DennisGPunkt (can't remember exact name, monkey spew tard, I have not seen him recently)
Di Rossi81 (very weird strategy, tons of leaks, clash with me a lot)

And also some of those weak-nit that probably don't win much pre-rakeback, like: sushifan, wildace, Tmex something, etc. Those reg play freaking 10k hands a day, how can they do it? My guess: They are 1bb/100 bot, making tons of RB.

Best z100 reg is between Izbadaben and Belgianproud, those two piss me off quite a lot. One is a loose very agressive player, they other one is a clone of ERA7ER.

Last edited by MiguelPicard; 02-26-2016 at 02:55 AM.

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02-26-2016 , 04:10 AM

#214

JoseMourinho

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 847

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Originally Posted by MiguelPicard

Best z100 reg is between Izbadaben and Belgianproud, those two piss me off quite a lot. One is a loose very agressive player, they other one is a clone of ERA7ER.

Is this a level? Dont think belgianproud is even a winning player. Izadaben doesnt seem good either.

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02-26-2016 , 04:24 AM

#215

dont3betme

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 686

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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho

Is this a level? Dont think belgianproud is even a winning player. Izadaben doesnt seem good either.

no need be like that. everyone has weak sides and can run bad vs anyone
for me on z200 there is a breakeven reg who just has it all the time

its quite hard to grind 10k/day constantly, im really happy stars has made a start vs bots

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02-26-2016 , 05:44 AM

#216

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

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Originally Posted by MiguelPicard

but I still have my suspicious on some players:

DennisGPunkt (can't remember exact name, monkey spew tard, I have not seen him recently)
Di Rossi81 (very weird strategy, tons of leaks, clash with me a lot)

And also some of those weak-nit that probably don't win much pre-rakeback, like: sushifan, wildace, Tmex something, etc. Those reg play freaking 10k hands a day, how can they do it? My guess: They are 1bb/100 bot, making tons of RB.

lol

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02-26-2016 , 05:54 AM

#217

MartimC

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+1 for di rossi

Spoiler:

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02-26-2016 , 07:15 AM

#218

cilderr

adept

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 774

doubt dirossi is a bot he has been spewing for years in teh zoom pools.

in russia/ukraine/belarus/moldova and the balkans (albania etc) median wage is less than 350€ a month and in the baltics its less than 900€ a month (considerably lower in Latvia/Lithuania than in Estonia) and therefore for most eastern euros, playing as a micro/small stakes pro to make more than 15k€ a year or smth will be attractive for years to come. Western euros should have an exit strategy.

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02-26-2016 , 07:21 AM

#219

PokerRon247

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Can anybody recommend any good software that handles table placement and preferably hotkeys as well? It must work on multiple sites (ie not StarsHelper).

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02-26-2016 , 09:02 AM

#220

TheDefiniteArticle

Indecisive

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14,123

lol this is ridiculous

1) Dennis is so obviously a bot, after all, how could any human play that kind of strategy?

2) unless belgianproud has stopped being terrible since I left stars, just don't be silly

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02-26-2016 , 11:01 AM

#221

TimStone

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

Dirossi v advanced gto bot. Vpip = pfr = 3bet. Fairly essy to code as well, not many variables

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02-26-2016 , 11:14 AM

#222

Bompapunk

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 169

I have 1.5k hands on DennisGpunkd playing 25NLz, last was from Summer 2015.

Last week I saw him playing 4 tables 500NLz ..

Obv. could just have luckboxed a tourney or something.

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02-26-2016 , 12:58 PM

#223

MartimC

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Originally Posted by TimStone

Dirossi v advanced gto bot. Vpip = pfr = 3bet. Fairly essy to code as well, not many variables

rofl

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02-26-2016 , 01:01 PM

#224

SpinMeRightRound

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,723

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Originally Posted by doctor877

Unlucky, but surely you could see this was coming? The writing was on the wall 5 years ago. Anyone getting into online poker after about 2011, with an aim to make a long term career from it, was foolish unless they were already crushing midstakes.

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Originally Posted by TimStone

Yeah PLO has got much tougher over the last few years. I see many guys on 2+2 recommend playing PLO because it's "full of fish", but that's simply not the case. When you add in the insane variance, all the coinflips and high rake, it's near enough impossible to beat unless you're at a table full of droolers.