If tables are bad, but u wanna play then sitting on the right of the semifish is correct (when 2-3 players have sat left of him) since then u have a potential jesus seat if a new rec decides to join a running game. Either that or its a bad script or he has some bot mashing seat me button.

Maybe you know that you are not the fastest scripter. So you except someone else to get Jesus and Jesus+1 Jesus+2
I remember yada doing this. It's effective at least on FR tables.
I don't think playing bvb vs the fish is good enough reason, because you lose positional advantage.

My guess is that if you realize your script isn´t fast enough you take the seat on the right while the faster script fight for the jesus seat so you don´t get the best seat but at least you get one... I don´t know if that makes any sense... Don´t know how they work exactly.

Makes absolutely no sense to take antijesus instead of jesus+1. Afterwards it would make sense to take antijesus next. Unless ofc you run solveresque realtime sw where position is abit less important and u actually may even get a greater overall edge if you have position on teh regs while still taking money of teh fish... go figure. Both guys mentioned in rgds to this ARE BOTS/HYBRIDS and hopefully will get banned soon

yeah if those guys are bots they're using 100% using software rather than being complete bot as 2reac does weird seating stuff and its all manual. addalex has said weird stuff to me after ive won pots vs him in very broken english and he always replies pretty quick when i speak to him, he also knows mukhin1 as he was trying to talk to him about stacking papagun

fwiw i dont think addalex is a bot/using a solver because if he is, it's very advanced or he's fairly good at poker to begin with. He's adjusted well to certain lines by me, e.g. donking turn when i stab flop wide with fish left to act behind him. Generally the bots play the high wwsf strat as it's fairly simple and requires less computation (also why they don't call IP or in BB much), please correct me if i'm wrong but that was my understanding so by donking in that spot it indicates to me a very advanced bot or he is a good player using a solver, and if it's the latter we're ****ed

whens the FTP merge planned to happen?

I think there was almost a consensus here that the "bots" at least at 200nl+ were not automated but players using some real time solvers.
(making the detection harder I would assume than if they were fully automated).

No word about new stars meetings happening soon?
TimStone might have a bad rep here to some and what he is saying is not taken seriously most of the time(doesn't help that he overreacts too) but hopefully some more respected members of the community (like ponty) can discuss with PS and find some solutions to this problem.

My rep in this section is fine, my rep in teh zoo and in nvg isnt.
Also im teh bullhorn of teh silent majority. Watever i post teh silent majority agrees bc they know i'm right. Im convinced that even moast people who strongly claim to disagree w major points on my agenda (education for instance) are people who deep down inside know that im right

Iluvthrill,

i dont know whats your problem at the tables, but dude i m not on 5mil b/e stretch lol

Seems like an incredibly optimistic view. You think they aren't aware of the issue or? Us regs don't really have any leverage. I don't see any way to get them to be more vigilant other than raising awareness, we need the regulators who are supposed to be protecting us to do something, and recs who aren't playing against who they think they are to be mad about it.

Thats 350k hands, anybody can run hot over that sample. Now go ahead and poast ur 5mirrion breako stats

lol why did i even bother to post .. gl everyone!

If your're far from the UK you're never gonna get the best seat so at peak times people change their script settings to go for like the worst 2 seats or something so at least they get a seat

Raising awareness seem to mean increasing the panic and chasing recs away by overestimating the number of bots.
If I read this thread I'd think more than half of the players are bots and I'd stay away from online poker.


PS is more and more aware of the issue and you seem to think they don't care much about it.
I believe they care a lot about it and want to fix it as it has the potential to hurt their profits badly.
I'm saying they could use our help, many bots were detected by the community before they were by PS.
But not in this way where many posters throw accusations left and right in public.

Basically this and tbh, even if stars requested to chat to regs like me about the subject, I likely just wouldn't bother. If they don't listen to their own (ex) pro's like Haxton etc, then they certainly aren't going to give two ****s about our views.

Whats the best settings for currency on PS?

My main currency is € but most of the tables are in $.

Should I check this option or will I be loosing money because of the conversions when I join and leave the tables?

We don't have any idea about how many bots PS catches, maybe the ones the community finds are 1% of the attempted accounts. I play live a fair bit and sometimes the players talk about online, they are much more informed about these scandals then most people would think. Online's image is already shot with "informed recs", I don't think a huge influx of bots would hurt their profits badly either. The tables are already full of players who almost never chat and play quite well, the difference between those players and bots,from a recs point of view, is almost non-existant.

Players have formed skype groups to find bots before, loads of times. They seem to invariably fizzle out though because of the money needed to buy datamines and the amount of hours required for little personal gain.

This is true, that is why some kind of agreement with PS to work together on this is what I hope for.
Or as I suggested before we should contribute with some small amount to the guys working on this, there is little personal gain as you've said for all those hours spent on finding bots.

I am 100% sure though that PS is totally against bots and doesn't turn a blind eye on them on purpose and they know it affects their profit in a really bad way.

I seem to be a minority in thinking this but them banning the russians that were crushing midstakes as semi-bots is a sign that they are more and more aware of this issue and working harder on doing smth about it
I know that they also caught some PLO bots years ago but for holdem NL midstakes this issue was kinda new. Was PLO still bot infested after that?

There were NL bots doing okay at midstakes years ago.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56...ngame-1112918/

talking about bots and baebba makes an appearance

GJ man, you are pretty tought to play against.

Lost 9bi to start the month, I guess my heather is over. I'm very frustrated right now, and i've run terrible.

GJ almost 8bb/100++ over 240k hands, screw the haters.

I'm still learning the game, i'm terrible but i'm getting there, GL at the table (except vs me!).

p.s: Fireflyyy, if you read this, you are a very strong player, you completely outplay me today multiple times.

what softer other than skype is there to do sweats/coachings (meaning you can share your screen and talk at the same time)? skype constantly makes my internet disconnect

Teamviewers? or that doesn't work anymore

Twitch w no delay

thx timsonte u da man, gonna try the twitch thingo

i think teamviewer is ok but no sound no