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06-11-2015 , 12:36 PM

#1401

itan

adept

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 902

hey guys u forgot mystyficator who is he anyone knows where he lives .

06-11-2015 , 12:37 PM

#1402

itan

adept

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 902

oh what about captain digbis?

06-11-2015 , 12:51 PM

#1403

pepeman

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,494

Seems like there are 2 winning bots for every winning reg out there.

06-11-2015 , 01:09 PM

#1404

garyk5846

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 406

FWIW i already contacted stars about 2 weeks ago regarding in4themoney1, qwerpassword and allian28 all being potential bots and they got back to me and told me they weren't...

Doesn't mean theyre not using some weird software though, i dunno

06-11-2015 , 01:12 PM

#1405

JesusEatsCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,646

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

Really siq. At this point im convinced there is at least a GTO decision based sw out there which is predominately used by russians or worse real bots

i'd say that GTO decision based software would be worse because slowly everyone would get a hold of it and online poker would completely die

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepeman

Seems like there are 2 winning bots for every winning reg out there.

Would be so sick if this was true and that was the main reason for games getting tougher

06-11-2015 , 01:22 PM

#1406

JesusEatsCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,646

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWJim

So all these guys are confirmed bots? I've had my suspicions about Dy*no*miter*888, I have only seen him and one other guy from the UK play a similar style where they 3b small IP and OOP follow by small cb and turn pot barrel at an alarmingly high frequency. Thought he was just an aggro fish, quite shocked to see he crush.

Cxlutters0xxx does that small 3b thing aswell and he's from the UK + there is at least one reg at 50 and 100nl on fulltilt from the UK that does it too

I was actually wondering a couple of months back if their was a someone that made a video about 3bing min in position with an insane freqency cause i've started to see it way too often

seems like they could be bots + I thought they were terrible which seems to be a running theme with these bot crushers

Last edited by JesusEatsCheese; 06-11-2015 at 01:29 PM.

06-11-2015 , 02:00 PM

#1407

NWJim

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 522

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusEatsCheese

That's the other guy I was thinking about, thought they were terrible but seems to crush. The thing is they 3b min OOP as well, which just doesn't really make any sense with any range 100bb+ deep imo. Also, they don't always top up which someone mention as a potential sign. Anyway, just speculating, don't want to throw innocent regs under the bus.

06-11-2015 , 02:03 PM

#1408

JesusEatsCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,646

Spoiler:

06-11-2015 , 02:27 PM

#1409

MartimC

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 6,558

start a skype group imo, not the best place to post SN's of potential bots

06-11-2015 , 03:00 PM

#1410

pepeman

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,494

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusEatsCheese

Cxlutters0xxx does that small 3b thing aswell and he's from the UK + there is at least one reg at 50 and 100nl on fulltilt from the UK that does it too

Half the regs from the UK are actually Spaniards.

06-11-2015 , 03:12 PM

#1411

JJTheFish

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartimC

start a skype group imo, not the best place to post SN's of potential bots

06-11-2015 , 03:37 PM

#1412

raikkonen3

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,805

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyk5846

Well if suspicions are correct and the plo bot ring exists as well as dexter and co being bots then obviously stars don't have sufficient methods to catch bots as iddqd was thought to be a bot from the very beginning, even by fellow russians

06-11-2015 , 04:42 PM

#1413

garyk5846

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 406

Yeah I'm still quite sure that they are. Maybe they didnt even look into it..
Would like if a stars rep saw this discussion though. Maybe they dont look into it too much if only one person reports it.

06-11-2015 , 05:49 PM

#1414

333totti333

adept

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,106

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusEatsCheese

Spoiler:

Both of these are infuriating to play against, so I won't be disappointed to see them disappear.

06-11-2015 , 07:13 PM

#1415

h88t_you

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 600

Quote:

Originally Posted by sifiasco

Both of these are infuriating to play against, so I won't be disappointed to see them disappear.

hahahahah i thought i was the only one who felt this way

06-11-2015 , 09:18 PM

#1416

Jajajaja

adept

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 850

The fact that dyno has won almost 500bi at 100nl and has never played a single hand of 200nl is more than enough evidence that he is a bot

Last edited by Jajajaja; 06-11-2015 at 09:25 PM.

06-12-2015 , 05:11 AM

#1417

itan

adept

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 902

and the fact that he never chats

06-12-2015 , 05:37 AM

#1418

MrSpew

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,621

i reported dyno almost a year ago and stars said he wasnt, still think he is though.

however clutters is just a ******ed version of dyno, having him in the games isnt a bad thing.

06-12-2015 , 12:47 PM

#1419

walkingzed

banned

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 501

There should be a running list of NLHE crushers who suddenly disappeared and those who are currently suspected of being bots.

06-12-2015 , 06:20 PM

#1420

MeleaB

See my Commercial Software thread

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,395

I made this post in the SSFR forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1318

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeleaB

I think it's time to either start a thread and/or start a Skype group to discuss and help detect bots (and real-time Poker Snowie type software that advises human players on which action to take.)

The advantage of having a Skype group is that it wouldn't reveal to botters that their account is under suspicion, but does that really matter?

I think we need to discuss ways to detect possible bots (high volume/appearing from nowhere/million+ hands crushing 100NL and 0 hands at 200NL, specific stats, etc.) and start looking at certain players (including those who have vanished from the tables). We can also discuss other stuff such as what we think Stars should be doing (preventing grinders from withdrawing an excess %age of their balance(??), additional regular checks of some sort on all high-volume players- e.g. web-cam captchas(??) etc.)

What does everything think? If we need to do this then which is better- thread or Skype group?

Do you guys think it's worth doing a combined FR/6M Skype group?

06-12-2015 , 06:38 PM

#1421

PlasticElephant

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,305

Would be in for the skype group. Maybe one group for general discussion then a seperate group for anything groundbreaking/ trends noticed so its easy to keep up on/ keep contributing.

Also @MX, message stars obv if you've found an indicator stat.

06-12-2015 , 06:47 PM

#1422

Burnss

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,539

in 4 skype group...but can i just be a fly on the wall and not comment about anything pretty please but just read?

06-12-2015 , 07:01 PM

#1423

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

in b4 group gets infiltrated

06-12-2015 , 07:05 PM

#1424

NWJim

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 522

In 4 skype group as well

06-12-2015 , 07:16 PM

#1425

MeleaB

See my Commercial Software thread

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,395

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

in b4 group gets infiltrated

Presumably it's possible to restrict who can add people to a Skype group? Participants could first be vouched for by others? I could oversee the initial SSFR players who wish to join, if someone here takes care of 6M players.

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