*******- OFFICIAL 2015 STARS REGS THREAD- ******* - Page 3 - Small Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

ha, sorry jajajaja not my finest moment :/ Was not an intentional slowroll though, I didn't think you'd bet flop with AK and really didn't think you were bluffing. #feelplayer

sick youve been playing poker since 2005?!?

01-06-2015 , 07:27 AM

#53

Mixgrill

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 1,817

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anderson Paixao

How do you do that, to show money in BBs instead of $?

Starshelper

01-06-2015 , 07:48 AM

#54

lagmonkey515

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 271

Stars is cancelling the rake changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

In Brief

All rake increases announced in October, except for Spin & Go changes, are cancelled effective immediately.
VPP multipliers will be reduced within the next few months for players in several additional countries where VAT and/or Gaming Duty are payable. These players will be informed directly in the coming days.
At some point in the future, we may deploy rake surcharges for countries that charge gaming duty or VAT. We will not do so before July 2015 at the earliest, and we will maintain our policy of passing on no more than half the tax to players and absorbing the rest ourselves.
Other than this, we will not implement rake increases in 2015.
The above apply to PokerStars.com and shared liquidity, not for our segregated sites in Italy, Spain, or France

Rake Change Rollback
We announced several rake changes on October 29th, 2014. The changes to Spin & Go rake will remain as implemented on November 3rd, 2014. All other rake changes announced in October, including those not yet implemented, are cancelled. As many of you have noticed, the rake rollback has already been fully deployed.

We will not implement any additional increased rake in 2015 other than possibly in jurisdictions where we experience gaming duty or VAT as described below.

VPP Multipliers for Taxed Countries
Within a few months we will reduce the VPP multipliers for some countries that are subject to gaming duty or VAT but that do not have their own software clients. We will deploy the change as soon as we are technically able, likely within the next two months.

These changes will be enacted consistent with our previously communicated policy of sharing up to 50% of taxation with players. VPP multiplier reductions have already been implemented previously in other taxed markets including Denmark and Belgium.

Adjusting Rake and Rewards due to Taxation
For our segregated markets of Spain, Italy, and France we use varied combinations of higher rake and lower rewards as we aim to pass on half of the tax cost to players. For shared liquidity we have thus far only adjusted for tax increases by lowering rewards. The primary reason is the technical challenge in charging different rake or fees for different participants in the same game. As a result, to date we have passed on substantially less than half of the tax.

Reducing rewards by 10%, for example, does not cover half of a 20% tax. Tax is generally calculated based on rake/fees generated, not rewards. Consider a case where a player pays $10 in rake and earns $3 in rewards. If we are taxed 20% of revenue, that is $2. If we pass half on to players, that is $1. In order to reduce rewards by $1 out of $3, we would have to reduce rewards by 33%, all to pass on half of a 20% tax. These numbers are just examples to make a point, not figures from any particular market.

More and more countries are introducing taxation, increasing the impact on our business. As a result, we plan to develop the ability to charge different rake/fees for different players within shared liquidity.

Rake increases will be paired with the existing VIP Reward reductions, so significantly less than half of the tax will be passed on through rake increases. As an example, a player in a country with 20% tax would expect a rake surcharge of significantly less than 10%.

We may not implement such charges this year, but if we do it will be in the second half of the year.

Closing
As always, we would like to thank those who have taken the time to share their views with us here on the forums and elsewhere. We do regularly read and discuss the perspectives shared here. Your input is valuable and important.

01-06-2015 , 07:57 AM

#55

neok

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,799

wow

01-06-2015 , 08:01 AM

#56

El P

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,714

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSpew

sick youve been playing poker since 2005?!?

since earlier i'd guess, check out his first result.

e: idk him at all, but 99% sure it's the same guy.

01-06-2015 , 08:18 AM

#57

qwertz1

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,243

wow :O

In to know when amaya does actually something that doesnt seem greedy?!?!?!?!

01-06-2015 , 08:27 AM

#58

alexuuus

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,316

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwertz1

wow :O

In to know when amaya does actually something that doesnt seem greedy?!?!?!?!

I think, its very likely they have seen a (big) decrease of action in those games which cut down their bottomline and they expected this to rather expand, so their logical reaction is to revert their decision (in their best interest).
Thats probably also why they didnt change spin sngs because the rake-increase didn´t really change the action there.

Dont think, it has much to do with reaction here

Personally I am more interested when they will change the FTP structure to something like bovada with nearly no huds, anonymous tables, max tables per Player and so on. Makes alot of sense for full tilt since the benefitprogram sucks like hell anyways

01-06-2015 , 08:51 AM

#59

kiteno

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 201

bummer. sh cashgames were just getting juicier with all the b/e regs coming from hu, s&g's etc.

Last edited by kiteno; 01-06-2015 at 08:53 AM. Reason: [x] defence mode on

01-06-2015 , 10:47 AM

#60

stevepa

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,812

Quote:

Originally Posted by El P

since earlier i'd guess, check out his first result.

e: idk him at all, but 99% sure it's the same guy.

that's me, started in 2004

01-06-2015 , 11:46 AM

#61

pepeman

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,494

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagmonkey515

Stars is cancelling the rake changes.

Let's hope there is not something hidden behind this, like a cut to the VIP system or something

01-06-2015 , 02:17 PM

#62

disco5tu

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,296

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevepa

that's me, started in 2004

the man who "shaped" timex...

01-06-2015 , 02:20 PM

#63

Mr Blonde

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,749

games were crazy good earlier wtf was going on

01-06-2015 , 03:48 PM

#64

MartimC

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 6,556

games have been very good in january for some reason

01-06-2015 , 05:49 PM

#65

valee

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 850

you guys ever played in january before?

01-06-2015 , 06:09 PM

#66

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

haha stars, i mean this is great news but its like :/

Spoiler:

01-06-2015 , 06:14 PM

#67

pontylad

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,720

very deep tonnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Spoiler:

01-06-2015 , 09:56 PM

#68

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

grindheaps
play less tables, jesus christ you clearly can't handle the pace

01-06-2015 , 11:13 PM

#69

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

but then it makes it harder to grindHEAPS

Spoiler:

01-07-2015 , 06:46 AM

#70

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by valee

you guys ever played in january before?

Lol

01-07-2015 , 07:26 AM

#71

MilkMan

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,169

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Urinstein

Apparently every single cash out is now subject to some sort of "review". I am now waiting 14 days for my funds.

Source?

01-07-2015 , 08:56 AM

#72

Calm Down

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,030

anyone else having trouble getting tst to work w ps7? scanning just wont work, correct filters and fonts etc

01-07-2015 , 01:02 PM

#73

Pinkmann

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,487

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartimC

games have been very good in january for some reason

Russian christmas imo

01-08-2015 , 04:34 AM

#74

Barry Urinstein

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilkMan

Source?

"Hello,

Thank you for your email.

Please note that every single cashout is subject to a review before being processed.

In your case the review took longer than usual.

Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience.

Feel free to contact us if you need any further assistance.

Regards,

PokerStars Security Team"

01-08-2015 , 06:18 AM

#75

Deanglow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,314

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Urinstein

"Hello,

Please note that every single cashout is subject to a review before being processed.

I think they're just talking about the time it takes between clicking "cash out" and getting the e-mail that your cashout was approved. Takes 4-24 hours for me.

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