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Old 01-10-2012, 06:48 AM   #76
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

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these 40 bb ****ers are so annoying and lame.

i'll probably write a guide or something on how to exploit them, so everybody can kick there ass and they maybe go broke or at least stop ****ing up my tables.
That would be great !
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:07 AM   #77
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:01 PM   #78
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:43 PM   #79
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Nozaking is pretty much the master of setmining over your 13bb squeeze and getting there.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:53 AM   #80
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

Hey,

I'm going to be going to the Stars HQ in about 10 days to discuss the rake changes with Stars and 4 other player reps.

You can add these scripts to your customstats.txt file in your HEM Reports folder to check your true winrate before rake and your rake paid:

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<Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="NL Rake Rate" ValueExpressions="Sum(ph.RakeAmount/1.0/GT.BigBlind) as RBB" Evaluate="RBB/TotalHands*100" ColumnHeader="R/100.NL" ColumnFormat="0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="NL Rake Rate" />

<Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="TWR.NL" ValueExpressions="Sum(ph.NetAmountWon/1.0/GT.BigBlind) as TotalBBs;"Sum(ph.RakeAmount/1.0/GT.BigBlind) as RBB" Evaluate="(TotalBBs+RBB)*100.0/TotalHands" ColumnHeader="TWR.NL" ColumnFormat="0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="True Winrate NL" />
For myself, my pre-rake winrates from 1-2 through 5-10 are all very similar (in the 2.75-3.5 range, 1-2 being the highest), yet my bb/100 winrate at 1-2 over this sample (Jul 1 to present) was -0.74, while the others were around 0.65 for 2-4/3-6 and over 1.5 for 5-10 (small sample).

Rake paid:
1-2 4.22
2-4 2.73
3-6 2.13
5-10 1.45

This huge jump at 1-2 is a real problem (and it gets much worse as you keep going down the stakes).

Fighting for improvements here will be a major goal of mine at the meetings. Ideally we would see a rake and/or cap reduction as stakes go down, but an improved VPP multiplier is also a realistic alternative.

Please give me any feedback in this thread or through PM, including running the above scripts and showing the results.
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:00 AM   #81
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

who cares about rake when sweet.kr is back at 1/2
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #82
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

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Hey,

I'm going to be going to the Stars HQ in about 10 days to discuss the rake changes with Stars and 4 other player reps.

You can add these scripts to your customstats.txt file in your HEM Reports folder to check your true winrate before rake and your rake paid:



For myself, my pre-rake winrates from 1-2 through 5-10 are all very similar (in the 2.75-3.5 range, 1-2 being the highest), yet my bb/100 winrate at 1-2 over this sample (Jul 1 to present) was -0.74, while the others were around 0.65 for 2-4/3-6 and over 1.5 for 5-10 (small sample).

Rake paid:
1-2 4.22
2-4 2.73
3-6 2.13
5-10 1.45

This huge jump at 1-2 is a real problem (and it gets much worse as you keep going down the stakes).

Fighting for improvements here will be a major goal of mine at the meetings. Ideally we would see a rake and/or cap reduction as stakes go down, but an improved VPP multiplier is also a realistic alternative.

Please give me any feedback in this thread or through PM, including running the above scripts and showing the results.
NL100 SH CAP 85k hands this month.

TWR.NL 3.61
R/100.NL 6.26
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:39 AM   #83
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

my brother NL200 SH CAP 40k hands this month

TWR.NL 4.19
R/100.NL 4.63
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:41 AM   #84
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

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Nozaking is pretty much the master of setmining over your 13bb squeeze and getting there.
That's an advanced play Broseph, they only teach it in the Japanese poker dojo.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:11 PM   #85
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

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who cares about rake when sweet.kr is back at 1/2
Wtf really? I haven't seen that guy since like 08'.
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:12 PM   #86
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

arvid2k47!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha

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Old 01-12-2012, 06:56 PM   #87
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Re: *** OFFICIAL 2012 STARS REGS THREAD!!! ***

For CAP table rake from my database I have:
.25/.50 - 6.38bb/100
.5/1 - 5.22bb/100

Higher stakes are near identical to Chisness so I won't repost.
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:35 AM   #88
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Lets go Stars regs! Lets make this thread curbstomp the FTP regs thread and every other SSNL regs thread.
Lol you're a bunch of nerds. Everyone knows Stars regs suck. FTP regs taking your moneyz...sup?

500k hands; 18bb/100...sustainable? Sure rakeback grinders are the neo-fish. Maybe next 500k hands ima run above allin-EV

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Old 01-14-2012, 06:27 AM   #89
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we should organise a stars regs v legacy ftp regs grudge match. i pledge allegiance to ftp.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:07 AM   #90
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I'm here to rep the paradise poker regs
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