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NL50Z - 4bet pot 3bet shove river NL50Z - 4bet pot 3bet shove river

06-23-2017 , 02:54 PM
Hi mates,

Vil look like decent overall.

3bet from SB - 15%

so i take the spot to 4bet here with my QJo, vs this guy i feel the EV of 4bet is a lot better to call.

I dont see him bet so tiny twice with nuts.

So i feel like thin value heavy from KQ;AQ most of the time.

It was optimistic to reshove here with my J blocker nuts?

The board bring a weird runout for AQ here and i was certain im never good river when i call.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 134.26 BB
SB: 103.22 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 66)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 115.04 BB (VPIP: 19.74, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 17.14, Hands: 78)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 14)
CO: 218.3 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 60)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, SB calls 13 BB

Flop: (47 BB, 2 players) 9 Q 3
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (47 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (75 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 24.94 BB, Hero raises to 97.26 BB and is all-in, SB calls 41.28 BB and is all-in

Hero shows Q J (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 27%, Flop 16%, Turn 10%)
SB shows A Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 73%, Flop 84%, Turn 90%)
SB wins 203.44 BB


Thanks
NL50Z - 4bet pot 3bet shove river Quote
06-23-2017 , 03:22 PM
mmm, what are you repping? TT?

Yeah, it's pretty bad, and you 2-bet the river fyi. you have showdown value on the river with how this hand played, just call.
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06-23-2017 , 08:20 PM
River jam accomplished nothing. It doesn't fold out better and you will not get called by worst. Just call
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06-23-2017 , 08:25 PM
Pre should just be a call imo. Use your position to float/steal pots, when you get called QJo plays really poorly in a 4b pot & doesnt block any of the AA/AK/KK combos. Cant really barrel too many textures either, esp without suitedness.

Ap river is spew. I'd call but not expect to be good often
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06-23-2017 , 09:28 PM
Am I being to much of a nit with this info thinking this is a clear fold pf (to 3 bet)? As played have to call river, rest has been explained well enough.

Last edited by jay94; 06-23-2017 at 09:48 PM.
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06-23-2017 , 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jay94
Am I being to much of a nit with this info thinking this is a clear fold pf (to 3 bet)?
I'd fold without a second thought. Doesn't flop well + easily dominated = **** that.
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06-24-2017 , 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jay94
Am I being to much of a nit with this info thinking this is a clear fold pf (to 3 bet)? As played have to call river, rest has been explained well enough.
Depends on what your BTN open range looks like, but against most folding is fine, would rather defend vs BB since people are more polar from BB and linear from SB. They'll have KQo/KJo that have you dominated from SB, BB more players do just weaker suited hands & premiums.

If you're opening like 60-70% otb, which I don't recommend against most decent aggro regs and good regs, QJo needs to be a defend.
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