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07-22-2016 , 08:43 PM
partypoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 130.36 BB
SB: 103.08 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
BB: 39.88 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 284.6 BB (VPIP: 29.29, PFR: 21.46, 3Bet Preflop: 5.03, Hands: 416)
CO: 166.08 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.4 BB, 2 players) 3 6 8
CO checks, Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB

Turn: (39.4 BB, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (39.4 BB, 2 players) 7
CO bets 18.72 BB, fold

CO wins 56.16 BB

No infos on vilain
Not super happy about my sizing/strat OTF here
either 1/3rd pot or check back would be better right ?
07-24-2016 , 07:53 AM
Looks fine. Not always cbetting this board tho
07-24-2016 , 08:33 PM
Seems very standard. I'm firing this board almost always in a 3bet pot as the preflop aggressor. Turn obviously sucks.

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07-25-2016 , 09:58 AM
check back flop
07-25-2016 , 11:34 AM
I don't 3bet this pre. Plays perfectly fine as a call.

I would x this flop at a very high frequency and CBetting it sometimes.
07-26-2016 , 02:35 PM
Flatting could induce squeezes and keeps dominated hands in cos range, but 3b builds a bigger pot ip with a fairly strong hand and balances for aggressive 3bing if you play more aggresively, both seem fine. Otf with no info you should imagine what he perceives the population doing here. Do most people in 50nl cbet dry boards with aq/ak in 3b pots? If you x will he perceive you as imbalanced and lead a lot of his range on non broadway turns? Does he double barrel when you call turn?

As played, I imagine he is calling a bit wider at these stack depths so there is a lot of fold equity otf, but there are also a ton of hands he is floating flop and folding turn with on this board, so it seems to me that once you bet flop you should be betting turn a lot of the time to fold 6x, 8x, and low pocket pairs. If the population is balanced or people don't exploit flop checks and turn folds with aq/ak then checking seems fine. If they lead turn a lot you can float turns with aq/ak.

Overall, I prefer x flop vs unknown as it keeps all dominated broadway in his range and prevents you from having to double barrel with fairly low equity, but if you do bet I think a turn bet is necessary most of the time. For this reason I wouldn't mind 1/3 pot sized bet otf so you can barrel more turns cheaply and keep his floating range wide.

Any feedback on my analysis is appreciated.
07-26-2016 , 08:35 PM
1.) 3 betting pre is fine but not necessary at all times. Even if there is a chronic squeezer, you could always 4 bet if you know their range is super wide (gotta have strong reads though)

2.) Make sure if you 1/3 pot the flops, that you keep it consistent with strong hands and also when you miss.

3.) An argument could be made if an A hits the turn/river, you'd be getting value out of a CO weaker A so cbetting is not at all standard but it's fine some of the time.

4.) Consider double barrelling if you knew villain better. But also the board texture doesn't give you much to rep so this also needs a strong read.

5.) WP on the turn and river.
07-27-2016 , 03:48 AM
Cc pre. As played if youre cbetting flop you gotta fire turn
07-27-2016 , 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by meale
Cc pre. As played if youre cbetting flop you gotta fire turn
I disagree. The board pairing is like the worst card to continue bluffing on. If we're just gonna barrel 3 streets here with all of our hands on all boards we are super exploitable. We should at least have a draw or something to barrel again.

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07-27-2016 , 03:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by E Mo
I disagree. The board pairing is like the worst card to continue bluffing on. If we're just gonna barrel 3 streets here with all of our hands on all boards we are super exploitable. We should at least have a draw or something to barrel again.

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Which is why I don't cbet flop.
07-27-2016 , 03:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by meale
Which is why I don't cbet flop.
Do you bet the flop with QQ? Or are you checking your whole range?

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07-27-2016 , 04:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by E Mo
Do you bet the flop with QQ? Or are you checking your whole range?

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Cbetting. I also don't 3bet this either lol.
07-27-2016 , 04:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by meale
Cbetting. I also don't 3bet this either lol.
So are you only c-betting dry low boards after 3 betting when it's for value? I hope you can see you need to bluff at least some percentage of the time.

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07-27-2016 , 04:26 AM
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So are you only c-betting dry low boards after 3 betting when it's for value?
I'll have some bluffs but AQ (which I don't even have) isn't one of them. Villain's range does reasonably well on this board and we have very little fold equity imo and more than enough SDV here.
07-27-2016 , 10:25 PM
Any pair is gonna call you here, turn card sucks to double barrel cause then you'd basically have to triple barrel cause you're still only able to rep an overpair.

3betting pre is fine. Pretty standard but you don't HAVE to 3bet AQ always. But for value AND YOU ARE IN POSITION that's better than eating a 10oz filet mignon seasoned with only salt, pepper and a bit of butter. Mmmmmmm...

Cbetting this flop is not needed always. I'd probably not cbet because there is nothing to rep and you're hoping villains called with K10o or A8o or whatever? PP's are def in their range and at higher levels believe me, you'll start to get check raised by the more laggy players in this spot.

However you can totally cbet this and hope a nice face card hits the turn. Any J, Q, K, A you can rep. It also covers up when you have a good hand (if villains are watching your cbet tendencies this carefully...smaller sites like I play on, this is very true so I have to mix it up a lot.)

      
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