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09-25-2016 , 06:50 AM

dim88world

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 31

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37439820

SB: $65.81 (131.6 bb)
BB: $80.19 (160.4 bb)
MP1: $49.30 (98.6 bb)
MP2: $30.88 (61.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $70.85 (141.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8

MP1 raises to $1.50, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, SB raises to $7.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($17) T

(2 players)
SB bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Turn: ($36) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17.50, SB raises to $98.81, Hero calls $36.35 and is all-in

River: ($143.70) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Where is my mistake here, that is standart situation for me and that is my big mistake in my play...

09-25-2016 , 08:37 AM

AbsoluteTilt

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,781

Depends on SB stats. If you're concerned with how you play these spots, consider folding pre or checking back turn. Don't worry about looking weak, bleeding money when you're money goes in bad is a much worse leak than making a perceived tight fold

09-25-2016 , 11:11 PM

p0ker_n00b

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fold pre, you don't have odds to call with 88 there.

09-26-2016 , 10:36 PM

Giannako.91

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Your mistakes are calling pre, betting turn and calling at opponents shove. So i think you played it as bad as possible here. You need very specific stats from opp to play like that this hand. Also if you take this line a lot (pre and post) its a huge leak and -EV move. Unless you flat also your top range some times at same spots to induce SQZ from SB BB. So here the mistake starts from calling pre. Fold pre as played and next hand

09-27-2016 , 08:20 AM

Yoshimiii

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You probably shouldn't be stacking off 88 here as standard lol.

09-27-2016 , 11:30 AM

Wages

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 28

Fold pre & Check back turn 100%.

Flop call as played is whatever.

09-27-2016 , 06:02 PM

chad0x001

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Can you explain your thinking throughout the hand?

09-28-2016 , 11:36 AM

BlackFire

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Is as played a good call cbet Flop??

09-28-2016 , 04:28 PM

Wages

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFire

Is as played a good call cbet Flop??

depends on villain, preflop such a mess that as played isnt really worth discussing

09-30-2016 , 02:19 AM

#10

cardshark66

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 11

You should be 3 betting pre flop at least 70% of the time with 88.

09-30-2016 , 02:41 AM

#11

nitcracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cardshark66

You should be 3 betting pre flop at least 70% of the time with 88.

09-30-2016 , 02:17 PM

#12

BetoBr

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 271

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFire

Is as played a good call cbet Flop??

Forgetting the fold pre, flop is a call. Turn is a check. Non A,K rivers CAN be a call otr if villain bets an ok amt.

09-30-2016 , 10:01 PM

#13

Triumph36

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Yeah, you can't bet the turn here - I get why you might bet/call here because opponent could have a huge amount of Ax with spades or big overs that he might do this with if you tend to be very stubborn in 3 bet pots, but if you're going to play this way, you must check this turn.

Either way, preflop is a fold because I doubt you have a wide enough call/call range - your opponent can put you on JJ-88/AQ/KQ and play accordingly.

10-03-2016 , 03:19 AM

#14

StraightFlooosh

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 761

Check turn seems std.

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