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Old 08-09-2012, 08:23 PM   #1
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NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

    UTG: $279.25 (139.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $206.40 (103.2 bb)
    MP: $55.25 (27.6 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $54.31 (27.2 bb)
    CO: $80 (40 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
    3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($34) 7 Q 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($34) K (2 players)
    SB bets $21.53, Hero calls $21.53

    River: ($77.06) 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $49.37, Hero calls ...



    Villain 22/19 w/ 8.7 3bet and 3.9 aggr. He 3bets me A LOT, particularly in LP vs blinds where his SB and BB 3bets vs steals are 12 and 13% respectively.

    There's a whale in the BB.

    I don't need any comments about pre. Please focus on turn and river after we get there this way.
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    Old 08-09-2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    I would call the river, villain should bet any pair and probably C-bets AK on the flop. He is really repping a narrow range of AK and 1 combo of QQ which I am not believing.
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    Old 08-09-2012, 09:11 PM   #3
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    I guess the counter argument if that most villains cbet this board 100% with air so he potentially has to be turning something into a bluff.
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    Old 08-09-2012, 09:19 PM   #4
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    5c (from V prespective) doesn't add SD equity (to what he's repping anyway) and doesn't add fold equity. yet he cbets. so i guess i fold. which makes turn a bad call.
    I fold turn or c\r depending on my image.
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    Old 08-10-2012, 08:09 PM   #5
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    I'd 4b rather than call
    Bet flop, I think he c/c a lot and if you're not calling the river then inducing is kind of pointless, no? Unless he never bluffs here and just always has the random Kxs

    I kind of like shoving the river if you can't call
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    Old 08-10-2012, 08:50 PM   #6
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    That King on the turn should hit your range more often than his. And then he bets twice vs you on turn and river. I lean toward just folding turn or river. I also do not know what kind of history you have with him which could make a difference in this agressively played type of spot.
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    Old 08-11-2012, 10:31 AM   #7
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    needs to be said
    pre is a huge leak 4b or fold. 12-13% is hardly hogh these days
    as played i call if hes known to 3 barrel and follow through on his bluffs, if not fold
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    Old 08-11-2012, 03:50 PM   #8
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    pre is kinda meh, i don't think he's wide enough to defend QTo, 4-betting is an option though i'd probably just fold usually.

    as played i call river, he certainly can have AJ/AT and similar hands or just pure bluffs figuring he reps AK now.
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    Old 08-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
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    Re: NL200 bluffcatcher in 3b pot

    I prefere to fold river... his bluffing range bets, often, on the flop...
    he can check with Qx , JJ , TT
    If he checks AJ, he could checks likely w AK ..why not?

    so river his range could be...
    bluffing range.. boh maybe AJ with a low frequency

    value range KQ, AK , sometimes QQ.......
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