I'm not really sure. I think I would call but I wouldn't criticize someone for folding. Forthelulz elaborated for me already but I was just trying to say that imo focusing on these decisions is not a good use of our energy.

I've been meaning to start a thread in uNL with the same point. I once noticed that almost every thread on the first page was about making somewhat big folds. It's natural for 25nl players to focus on those decisions because they seem important. They lost money in that session and calling when they were beat appears to be why. The problem is that most of those very close spots are just worthless to analyze because the EV of calling and folding is almost identical (not necessarily saying this hand is the same).

Basically people want to know why they lose at poker. They think it's when they called with two pair but lost to a straight. But it's really because they missed a value bet in some 10bb pot and they missed a good 3barrell spot in a different hand.

Better explanation: http://www.husng.com/content/meaning...ingless-errors

I've posted that before and lol sngs but it's good

Agree with all of this, just wanted to check if people actually show up with worse here enough to call.

call

oh I see. Yeah, no idea. I was pretty sure villain in this thread would always have the nuts too.

C/r the flop and it's not close, if it is than c/r every flop

This is the problem with super passive lines. C/r flop, bet turn, bet river makes this a much easier fold.

As played, I fold.

Agree. But I'd add that it might have some metagame advantages if he sees you turning over a slowplayed boat. He might not valuebet you lighter in the future, or in general be a bit more uncomfortable and cautious. Which is a good thing imo.

So so wrong.

what keyser said is very true

in short, it's easy to see the hands where you stack shrunk and auto-reload dinged your roll, but it's harder to see the profits that you never imagined were possible

Even here on the forum there are roughly 50/50 people who would fold (whereas maybe 25% of these would fold in reality ) and people who would call. That only shows us how close this spot is.

Spoken by a very experienced player, I agree.


Final Results:

I actually snap called him and...
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Never calling here fellas considering the description of the player. Moving you from your hands twice before doesnt mean he bluffed you. I only call if i have concrete information that he can spew tilt shove in spots like these randomly.