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Old 07-17-2012, 10:08 AM   #1
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NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

Hello there.

Villain is 18/17 and raises 14 pct. UTG so far (sample: 309 hands). He seems fairly aggressive as he c-bets flop 100 pct. (7) and turn 71 pct. (7). He folds 85 pct. to 3-bet so far (15). AF is so far 6/6/8. Other than that no real reads.

My overall stats so far are 23/19 with 9 pct. 3-bet, but I have been running at 26/23 11 pct. 3-bet over 121 hands at this table.

No dynamic at all other than I have been 3-betting him a couple of times at some other tables where he just folded 3/3 times.

Comments to all streets are more than welcome.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $40 (40 bb)
Hero (BB): $143 (143 bb)
UTG: $219.31 (219.3 bb)
MP: $72.71 (72.7 bb)
CO: $46.54 (46.5 bb)
BTN: $174.18 (174.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
UTG raises to $3, 4 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 9 7 J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.16, Hero calls $4.16

Turn: ($14.82) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $9.48, Hero ?
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:33 AM   #2
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

I wanna CR to $21 on flop vs this opponent because he cbets flop way too often to have a range that can take a CR on that flop texture.

As played, I don't like the spot you are in.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:59 PM   #3
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

i don't think 100% over 7 opportunities to cbet is enough to deduce that he's cbetting too much.

i can see merits to c/r this turn, he doesn't have a lot of pure air in his range after opening utg and barrelling twice here but we can rep sets/KJ/QTs and he'd probably be very uncomfortable even with KJ. i'd much rather fold than call though, not all of our outs are clean and it's going to be hard to get value if we hit on the river.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:30 AM   #4
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

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i don't think 100% over 7 opportunities to cbet is enough to deduce that he's cbetting too much.

i can see merits to c/r this turn, he doesn't have a lot of pure air in his range after opening utg and barrelling twice here but we can rep sets/KJ/QTs and he'd probably be very uncomfortable even with KJ. i'd much rather fold than call though, not all of our outs are clean and it's going to be hard to get value if we hit on the river.
My plan was to CR this turn and bet inducive on rivers that gave us a str8 and bet big on almost the rest of the deck. Maybe giving up on rivers that complete the flush. Thoughts?
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:56 AM   #5
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

Is this hand too boring?
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:00 AM   #6
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

Looks like a standard call on the turn. Consider bluffcatching or turning your hand into a bluff on the river if he bets again.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:16 PM   #7
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

Don't see him cbetting this flop light at all. Even if he did, majority of that range hit the turn.
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

I would fold, since I would have AK in my range on the turn. But TT is the top of my folding range probably.
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Re: NL100: Turn decision with double gutter oop vs. bet?

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I wanna CR to $21 on flop vs this opponent because he cbets flop way too often to have a range that can take a CR on that flop texture.
LOL. This is horrible.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:31 PM   #10
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i can see merits to c/r this turn, he doesn't have a lot of pure air in his range after opening utg and barrelling twice here but we can rep sets/KJ/QTs and he'd probably be very uncomfortable even with KJ. i'd much rather fold than call though, not all of our outs are clean and it's going to be hard to get value if we hit on the river.
Yeah, c/r turn is an option, interesting idea. Although I'd still stick to fold.
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